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[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit..." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion," ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all.", ">\n\nOr at least get in the slow lane…" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all.", ">\n\nOr at least get in the slow lane…", ">\n\nI really can’t understand people that go slow blocking people of passing them or complaining saying that we should respect their speed but they don’t respect that other people want to go faster. If you want to go speed limit great do it but if someone faster is coming just move it doesn’t change you at all if you let faster people pass" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all.", ">\n\nOr at least get in the slow lane…", ">\n\nI really can’t understand people that go slow blocking people of passing them or complaining saying that we should respect their speed but they don’t respect that other people want to go faster. If you want to go speed limit great do it but if someone faster is coming just move it doesn’t change you at all if you let faster people pass", ">\n\nYeah, I generally try not to tailgate if they are going the actual speed limit but like I said 5 or 10mph lower than the speed limit is ridiculous" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all.", ">\n\nOr at least get in the slow lane…", ">\n\nI really can’t understand people that go slow blocking people of passing them or complaining saying that we should respect their speed but they don’t respect that other people want to go faster. If you want to go speed limit great do it but if someone faster is coming just move it doesn’t change you at all if you let faster people pass", ">\n\nYeah, I generally try not to tailgate if they are going the actual speed limit but like I said 5 or 10mph lower than the speed limit is ridiculous", ">\n\nThis might only apply if you're a learner driver." ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all.", ">\n\nOr at least get in the slow lane…", ">\n\nI really can’t understand people that go slow blocking people of passing them or complaining saying that we should respect their speed but they don’t respect that other people want to go faster. If you want to go speed limit great do it but if someone faster is coming just move it doesn’t change you at all if you let faster people pass", ">\n\nYeah, I generally try not to tailgate if they are going the actual speed limit but like I said 5 or 10mph lower than the speed limit is ridiculous", ">\n\nThis might only apply if you're a learner driver.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?" ]

[ "Agreed but I'm downvoting because I'm fairly certain this is a popular opinion.", ">\n\nFair enough, sorta thought more people would be like \"just slow down you speed demon\"", ">\n\nWell then that’s where you get to the nuance of it. I’m not moving over on a 50mph road when I’m doing 50 because the guy behind wants to do 80.", ">\n\nThen you're the one causing traffic. The passing lane is for passing, not sitting at exactly the speed limit and cruising.", ">\n\nOP isn’t just talking only about 2 lane roads. I’m not pulling over on a regular road to let some prick that wants to drive dangerously go passed whilst I’m doing the limit", ">\n\nMost of the 50/kmh speed limits where I live are near school zones. People can fuck right off with trying to go 80 on those.\nThe school zones themselves have lower limits, but let's not pretend that some kids don't have to walk to and from school. Safety first. \nA few years ago, some jackass was doing 80/kmh on a 50/kmh road, and killed a 5 year old's dad, who went out to grab ice cream for her birthday. I can't say I have sympathy for people zooming in residential areas anymore.", ">\n\nMy dad does this and it makes me so anxious. He is the slowest driver on earth and I hate it so much, I can almost feel the anger of the other drivers behind us.", ">\n\nDoes he know that he's annoying the people behind him by not just pulling over or speeding up?", ">\n\nI really don’t think he’s aware, that’s the worst part. I always have to tell him he’s going too slow. He’ll say “Well, they can pass me.” I’m like “Well, if everyone is passing you maybe you need to speed up.” Then he gets defensive. He’s just way too overly cautious", ">\n\nThat's the thing is we can't always pass that person (at least not legally anyways) like if it's a one lane road.", ">\n\nI know. I always try to drive if I can help it. He’s the worst haha", ">\n\nIt used to be a law in Wisconsin, back when i lived there, you had to pull over if you were holding up 5 or more vehicals.", ">\n\n5 seems like a lot, id say like 2 or 3 is reasonable because at that point you might get a guy that instead of going 10 below he's going 5 below which is also super slow", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion: the only one who doesn't agree with it is the person driving slowly at the front of the line.", ">\n\nI feel these people lack awareness of their surroundings or they simply do not care. They are the same people that block aisles at grocery stores.", ">\n\nThe worst is two lanes and both cars in each lane are just driving side-by-side 😫", ">\n\nThis is true, especially one 18 wheeler truck trying to pass another. Always takes forever", ">\n\nI fully agree it's so annoying to be behind someone being slow as hell and in my experience most slow drivers I saw were usually braking repeatedly which made their behaviour unpredictable it's more dangerous than someone speeding and passing me", ">\n\nAgreed, but...... If I'm already doing 65 in a 55 and 1 or more cars are tailgating, we will ALL be doing 55 Max for the next mile or 2.", ">\n\nOh, if someone tailgates me, I WILL slow down until I’m actually at the speed limit. That shit is rude and dangerous.", ">\n\nDangerous is tailgating someone at speed. Rude is doing so when they are already doing 10 over. All I would be doing is pointing out the fact that all this could be avoided if you just back off and accept that if I'm doing 10 over already I'm probably not going to speed up because you are running late or think that speed limits don't apply to you. Minimum speed is usually 10 to 15 below the speed limit. we could try that for a while if you like. I suppose I could even just brake check you and then we'll get to sit on the road together for a couple hours and neither of us will get where we're going on time. Sound fun?", ">\n\nExactly. I can’t get over the mentality that other drivers on the road owe it to you to put themselves in danger of tickets, higher insurance premiums, or at-fault accidents...merely because they happen to be the car in front of you. \nIt’s why I make a point of slowing down if you are actually tailgating me on a highway. It’s my way of saying, ‘get over yourself.’", ">\n\nIndeed 😏", ">\n\nIf its a 2 lane road no you DONT have to pull over... if its a multilane highway people have a left lane to pass you. If youre not comfortable gping the actual speed limit you shouldnt be driving. Unless theres weather conditions ie heavy rain or ice you shouldnt be traveling 10 under the limit...", ">\n\nYes agreed, I was mostly thinking single lane roads when I posted this. In multi lane roads you shouldn't be in left lane unless you're passing", ">\n\nWhich is weird though because then all trfgic gets backed up in the right lane... sometimes i just cruise in the left lane going 10 over. If someone is comming up ill get over tho", ">\n\nIt boggles my mind that this is not more of a common courtesy. To go along with it, how the fuck do these people not realize the cars ahead of them are pulling away and gaining distance?! And then they also have cars stacking up behind them. How the fuck can anyone drive a vehicle and be this completely unaware of their surroundings?", ">\n\nAnswer: selfishness. They just don’t give a rat’s ass about you or anyone else.", ">\n\nYou’re right. The grocery store also really shows you peoples true nature like driving does. Pure selfishness and lack of self awareness.", ">\n\nOh, yeah, I’ve got my head on a swivel because some soccer mom with 5 kids hanging off the cart decides that she and ONLY she has the right of way in every aisle.\nDon’t get me started, lol\n(This is why I go shopping for food at night past kids bedtimes when only single adults are shopping)", ">\n\nAgreed. I swear theres people that wake up every day and their first thought is \"imma be a hinder to everyone around me\". Just move aside. Dont drive way below the speed limit. Some of us actually do want to go places in times.", ">\n\nEveryone down voting this is the problem", ">\n\nFuck that. Do the speed limit. They can honk their horn at me all they want to. If I'm doing the speed limit, they're the ones with the problem", ">\n\nExactly. I will drive the SL, even 5-10 mph over it (because it is improbable that a cop will be bothered to pull me over for that). \nIf anyone has a problem with that, they need to ask themselves why they didn’t plan their route and time it better. We literally have apps that do it for us these days!", ">\n\nIn most cases, it's not even just \"you should\" -- It's literally the law if you're in the leftmost lane on the highway.\nIt doesn't matter if the speed limit is 70 and you're going 70mph. It does not fucking matter. You get over and let the people behind you pass. You're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you.", ">\n\n\nYou're going to cause an accident because they can't get around you\n\nHow? \nIf you are referring to people overtaking dangerously then that isn't the slow person's fault, it's the impatient person overtaking recklessly.", ">\n\nWe aren't talking about who is at fault here, we are talking about preventing an accident. If you can prevent an accident that wouldn't be your fault, you should obviously do it.", ">\n\nYou allocate fault when you call someone the cause. The cause of an accident by a bad overtake is the person doing a bad overtake, not whatever they are overtaking.", ">\n\nVery popular opinion", ">\n\nif everything else were identical but the road sign said 20 mph slower and the person were going the exact same speed you'd probably be going slower than them.\nyou're only mad because you want to go faster than them, not because of the speed they're going.\nif roads had no speed limit, would you constantly pull over for people who want to go 120mph all the time?", ">\n\nThere is no reason beyond a fragile ego to not let faster traffic pass you. Why on earth would you want lots of cars held up behind you? It's more dangerous and promotes road rage instead of just letting everyone go about their day.\nUnless of course you feel the childish need to be important and act like a police officer that gets to decide how fast everyone else should be going.", ">\n\nThank God someone said it. If you want to drive slow then fine, but if you want to hold everyone up then you're a problem", ">\n\nNo upvote for you! I completely agree - these people are the bane of existence", ">\n\nThis only applies on single lane highways for me. Otherwise just pass me normally", ">\n\nYeah thats kinda what I was trying to get at", ">\n\nAt least in Germany, by law, you have to drive on the 1st lane and use the 2nd for overtakes. If that one's busy as well, if available, overtake on the 3rd. So I'm downvoting this because the solution and approach is all wrong", ">\n\nI was moreso talking about single lane roads in a more countryside/rural setting. It still works a bit differently in America, where the left most lane is supposed to be used nearly exclusively for passing, and the right/middle lanes to be used for cruising and getting off at your exit.", ">\n\nSo they should interrupt their already slow trip in a single lane road just because YOU have a car with a better engine, better speed, want to go over the legal speed limit and, for any reason, cannot overpass the slower car on the opposite direction lane? Is that what you're trying to say? Because we are able to just overpass onto the opposite lane if there are no cars incoming and if the section permits it", ">\n\nThose sections where you can overpass in the opposing lane happen few and far between. Plus it seems like you missed a key aspect of the post. Im not saying I want to go over the legal speed limit: if your car is going the speed limit and im behind you then I'm all fine with that. But if you're going so slow you're causing a huge line of cars behind you then thats a problem.", ">\n\nOr, alternatively, don't drive below the speed limit unnecessarily", ">\n\nYou wouldn't believe how often I've been seeing it lately, it's insane. And I hate tailgating because then I feel like the asshole", ">\n\nIs it because it's the middle of winter and everything is like an ice rink?", ">\n\nI mean obviously if the road conditions themselves are bad that's a different story. I'll see it on roads that are completely clear of any snow, water, and ice.", ">\n\nI find in general driving has gotten about 20% worse since the start of Covid. I'm not sure if it's from people driving less, or a loss of cognitive skills from long Covid. But I see more people clueless on the road than ever before.", ">\n\nWhere I live Covid caused a less intense driving test than usual so for my area I’d bet that’s why I find people worse at driving recently.", ">\n\nOh wow, yeah that is massive. I don't think it caused a change here, and it's also a lot more bad drivers than just new ones, but I don't know.", ">\n\nYeah no reverse, parallel, emergency stop, and they also shortened it by around 25%. It was pretty horrible tbh", ">\n\nWtf.", ">\n\nI was driving once in a snow storm on a two lane freeway, a line of cars a mile long behind me. I was new in driving in snow and driving very slow. Normally everyone drives like maniacs here and I was tempted to drive faster, but then I thought, they could all pass I'd they wanted. The line stayed behind me happy of someone forging ahead.\nLong story short, it all depends. As long as you drive speed limit or according to circumstances you are fine. Don't let those rushing force you to something you are not ready.", ">\n\nUnder that circumstance I'd agree with you, with a big part of it being a two lane road and they could pass if they wanted. Road conditions obviously play a big part into this.", ">\n\nNo, bad drivers take the speed limit as \"I must do this speed\". It is not the speed you must drive, wtf can 90% of drivers not get this in their heads.", ">\n\nYes which is why it's a speed limit. Unless the road conditions are poor you should be going close to the speed limit, not 5 to 10mph below. There's no reason that you should be holding up multiple cars because you want to drive slower. If you wanna drive slower then fine but let the rest of us who want to drive at the speed limit pass you.", ">\n\n5 below the limit is close to the limit, Fuck me how do you not get this. If I'm holding cars up by going 45 then I can bet my life they all want to drive above the limit.", ">\n\nIt literally doesn't matter why they're all bunched up behind you. Regardless of reason, if you are holding up cars in traffic you're the asshole. Period. It isn't your place to decide how fast everyone else goes. You're not the police.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nOk", ">\n\nWhy though? It’s a speed LIMIT. Nothing says it’s forbidden to ride a bit under, on country roads that is. What if there’s a heavy truck and the driver needs to be extra careful because of the load? Or if another one is riding a motorcycle and there’s leftover dirt that some tractor left behind? Or what if this tractor is on the country road, going slowly? What’s the point in tailgating? The speed limit is in fact a limit folks. \nDo the math.. how much time will you save by driving 7miles per hour faster? I think what people really don’t like is that impression of not advancing when you have to slow down from your usual cruising speed. Its just an impression because you’re still getting closer to your destination. Its not worth risking the life of others or your life over it.\nAdapt your driving, be attentive and enjoy the ride. No need to always be at the speed limit or over. Life is to precious to die or kill in a stupid road accident. You are still getting to where you’re going, Specifically if you drive carefully.", ">\n\nIf youre causing a line of traffic behind you it's an issue. And if you're going slow to \"enjoy the ride\" then how come you can't be courteous to others around you and pull over and allow them to pass?", ">\n\nIf I’m going slightly under the speed limit and there’s traffic behind the issue is the people insisting on going at or over the speed limit. As I said, its a speed limit for a reason. Its not a recommended speed and there are good reasons not to always stick to it.\nMany country roads do have passing lines. I’d rather let the hurried ones pass and keep an appropriate speed so they can securly pass at these places. The only moment i’ll pull over is if an emergency vehicle needs the lane. Or some other emergency happens.\nDo people get angry at a snow storm because it slows them? Surely. But they can’t tailgate it or harass it. So why do that to a driver who’s only perceived fault is respecting the speed limit?", ">\n\nThe unpopular opinion is that you are never \"stuck in traffic\" you are traffic; and you should slow down, be patient, respectful, alert, focused, and cautious.\nThat is an unpopular opinion.\nAn even more unpopular opinion is that if you can't handle doing the above, you should be taking public transportation; which is most people.", ">\n\nPeople always say to follow the speed limit, but generally speaking (where I live), I noticed some streets are posted to go 40 mph due to residential/school areas, but normal traffic goes 45 to 50 without it being dangerous. The speed limit does not always match what is really \"safe\" per se, it's a great baseline to start, but there's absolutely no reason to go under what it says...new drivers included, big rig drivers, and those that are having car issues obviously. And weather.", ">\n\nYou might be right. The problem is that most drivers out there are shit at making these judgment calls. This would require correctly estimating their response rate and the car’s behavior on different road conditions. So you’re giving people way too much credit if you’re thinking they can know when +10 mph is just as safe.\nA friend of mine is a driving instructor giving those court mandated classes to people who had their license suspended, and you wouldn’t believe how idiotic most people are. He explains things like braking distance to them, and there’s always one idiot that goes like “wait, you’re meaning to tell me that if I’m driving 60 mph, my car is moving 90 feet per second? That’s crazy!!” - and my friend is like “it’s not crazy, it’s math”. If people don’t understand movement speed - do you really expect them to be good judges of their reaction speed and breaking distance?\nMost people are just bad drivers. Speed limits wouldn’t be required if all drivers were good.", ">\n\n\ngoing 5 or 10mph below the speed limit\nif you already are going the speed limit\n\nThese are literally the same thing. it's why it's called a SPEED LIMIT. It's the MAXIMUM you are allowed to drive.\nJust slow down and wait behind me. Overtake when safe to do so. I'm not driving to race anyone and neither should you\nI'll speed up a bit for you if I see you can't overtake me, but don't expect much. Gasoline is expensive", ">\n\nIf I'm going the speed limit then F off and slow down", ">\n\nAnd you're the issue. Move over and then nobody cares how fast you're going", ">\n\nMmm nah. Why don't you give me a ticket? Oh wait... You can't lol", ">\n\nKeep being inconsiderate, you are the main character after all", ">\n\nIt's the law bro. Speed limits were made for safety. By not respecting them, you're thinking you're more important than other people's safety. You're the one with main character syndrome, my dude.", ">\n\nNah those people can wait", ">\n\nThis is a popular option. A lot of drivers can't plan ahead and go out early to drive from y to z. They instead do things last minute and this is why a lot of people try to hurry to places. It's stupid how someone can't plan ahead and go 5 mins earlier than they should.", ">\n\nWhat about a situation where you are already going 5-10mph and there are cars tailgating you on a 1 lane road? I used to live off a 55mph road and saw more of this than people going under the speed limit", ">\n\nPull over and stop? No. Faster cars should overtake when they have an opportunity.\nI never drive above the speed limit and rarely below it, and it still sometimes happens. Usually in winter, when it's dark at 5pm. There's a road in my city with speed limit 50 km/h (since it's a residential area). But it also has intersections, crosswalks and side roads to store parking lots every 100-150 meters. And usually heavy traffic. No way I'm doing 50 and stopping at every single crosswalk. Sometimes it's also dark and/or wet. So yeah, it is possible and safe to go 50 there on a Sunday morning, but not on work days.\nAlso, you seem to assume it's safe and legal to just pull over on a road.", ">\n\nNot all roads have the opportunity to overtake the car. I also did specify \"pull over when it's safe to do so\" which many times it can be. I generally mean the roads that are in more rural areas where you can just cruise through. To be fair though I didn't realize my wording could be thought to mean all roads.", ">\n\nYeah, it's probably regional differences. I though about my own driving experience and I guess I misunderstood your post.\nIn my personal driving experience being stuck behind a slow driver (driving below speed limit for no apparent reason) is incredibly rare. I live in Poland. In my area there are many towns and cities very close to each other, connected with 90 km/h roads, one lane in each direction and usually going through forests and fields. It's pretty common to get overtaken by a person going over 100 km/h. There's either no place to pull over, because you'd drive into a cornfield/a tree, or there is a \"lane\" meant for bikes and pedestrians. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to stop there without an emergency.\nWhere are you from? I guess roads there are different than here.", ">\n\nAh sorry, we don't really have bike lanes outside of cities in the US. There's usually (but not always) some room on the shoulder to safely pull over", ">\n\nI don’t think this is unpopular. In fact, I like to pull over and let tailgaters pass me. I like to see if I just catch up with them at the next light anyway, plus I feed like it’s probably a bit unnerving for the tailgater.", ">\n\nAfter seeing some of the comments on this post it's more polarizing than unpopular. I've seen a good amount of people here on both sides of the argument", ">\n\nPopular opinion", ">\n\nTotally in agreement 100 %", ">\n\nUse your horn for slow drivers, this has been my Ted talk.", ">\n\nI mean. It's a law", ">\n\nThis is not UP. -1", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nLeft lane is the fast lane. Don't hover there thinking \"Well, I'm going the speed limit.\" No, you're blocking traffic.", ">\n\nMy area has a fair number of twisty two lane roads. Signs are posted to pull over in designated areas if cars are piling up behind you \nBut do they? It's probably about 50/50", ">\n\nUnless your driving a hearse.😉", ">\n\nDown voting the super popular opinion that if there is more than one lane is also backed by law", ">\n\nI used to drive a two lane highway to and from work, and there was a guy I got behind every day who would actually do this. Speed limit was 50, and he didn't go much over 25. But, every time someone came up behind him, he would pull over to the shoulder and let us pass. I appreciated that.", ">\n\nHardly unpopular.", ">\n\nRed light?", ">\n\nWell, this is a law, lol, not an opinion.", ">\n\nThis is not an unpopular opinion. I travel for kayak racing and I get so frustrated at people who drive the speed limit to 5+ in the passing lane. Once I pulled into the right lane to pass a girl driving the speed limit in the passing lane, an older man, I assume was her father, in the passenger seat. I yelled, “ teach your daughter to drive!” Like my dad taught me.", ">\n\nThis is a very popular opinion,", ">\n\nI agree unless I'm already going 10-15 over, then fuck you dodge ram", ">\n\nIf you're going 10 mph below the speed limit you shouldn't be driving at all.", ">\n\nOr at least get in the slow lane…", ">\n\nI really can’t understand people that go slow blocking people of passing them or complaining saying that we should respect their speed but they don’t respect that other people want to go faster. If you want to go speed limit great do it but if someone faster is coming just move it doesn’t change you at all if you let faster people pass", ">\n\nYeah, I generally try not to tailgate if they are going the actual speed limit but like I said 5 or 10mph lower than the speed limit is ridiculous", ">\n\nThis might only apply if you're a learner driver.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?", ">\n\nSome places it's illegal to not pull over and let people pass if you have a que" ]

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