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Yeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!"
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I really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay."
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I lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything.
I feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go."
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Genital herpes of America. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?"
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This type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?
If we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions.
But since the civil war, we really said "hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful.
I see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue.
If federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho.
If it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to."
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Oh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though… | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women."
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If they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country."
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I fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?"
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Fuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club."
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Infant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.
As a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls."
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays"
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Southerner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually. | [
"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”"
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit.",
">\n\nInteresting how Republicans tried to turn Wisconsin into a Bible Belt vassal state with extreme gerrymandering, and mostly succeeded."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit.",
">\n\nInteresting how Republicans tried to turn Wisconsin into a Bible Belt vassal state with extreme gerrymandering, and mostly succeeded.",
">\n\nLove a good pay wall…"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit.",
">\n\nInteresting how Republicans tried to turn Wisconsin into a Bible Belt vassal state with extreme gerrymandering, and mostly succeeded.",
">\n\nLove a good pay wall…",
">\n\nNaturally it's the states that are at the bottom of the pack in every meaningful quality of life metric"
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">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit.",
">\n\nInteresting how Republicans tried to turn Wisconsin into a Bible Belt vassal state with extreme gerrymandering, and mostly succeeded.",
">\n\nLove a good pay wall…",
">\n\nNaturally it's the states that are at the bottom of the pack in every meaningful quality of life metric",
">\n\nI can’t read the article at all."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit.",
">\n\nInteresting how Republicans tried to turn Wisconsin into a Bible Belt vassal state with extreme gerrymandering, and mostly succeeded.",
">\n\nLove a good pay wall…",
">\n\nNaturally it's the states that are at the bottom of the pack in every meaningful quality of life metric",
">\n\nI can’t read the article at all.",
">\n\nFreedom."
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"Overlay a poverty index and take me to flavortown",
">\n\nMaternal and infant mortality rates as well! There seems to be a correlation, the more “pro-life” a state is, the higher infant and maternal mortality rates are.",
">\n\nThank you!",
">\n\n“Siri, show me the backwards-ass states where I will never live.”",
">\n\nAre these what you might call \"shithole\" states?",
">\n\nI live in Wisconsin and to be honest it is nothing close to a shithole state. I've traveled and lived in other states but always came back to Wisconsin. Friendly people, a relatively low crime rate, great school systems, strong economy for the most part.\nUnfortunately, we are one of the worse gerrymandered states in the country. I believe we might actually be #1. Republicans are the minority who have exploited our system to seal their power in our state. If democrats could gain their rightful control of Wisconsin back it would be perfect.\nI do find it funny that we are behaving like these other states though because if you look at our metrics we are nothing like the stereotypical \"hick state\" lol. The reason I am not too worried is that I've spent a lot of time around UWM, UW-Madison, and Marquette. The large majority of students are democratic and love their state. I believe when we are older and start to enter positions of power this will become more apparent. Because, unlike the majority of these \"shithole states\" Wisconsin has done a good job of educating our youth.",
">\n\nWisconsin was surprising to see on here. I've had great times in Wisconsin! Spotted cow is super great, the cheese you don't even need to mention how incredible it is, and House on the Rock!?",
">\n\nSomeone posted in a different thread last week about Wisconsin. It’s completely gerrymandered. Democrats get far more votes in the legislature, but republicans are able to control it.",
">\n\nScott Walker and a republican legislature had a right wing think tank come in and redraw the maps in 2010, we're going to be paying for that one for quite a while. The upcoming Supreme Court election is huge.",
">\n\nWait, Wisconsin?!?!?!? I thought at least they would be better than that. Wait to quote the voice of god, “Bartlebee, was Wisconsin really that bad?”",
">\n\nIt is due to a law from 1849. The current governor is a Democrat that has claimed he would not enforce the law and has made calls to repeal the law. Naturally this has been opposed by state conservatives.",
">\n\nWisconsin Supreme Court election is coming up. If Dems manage flip a seat things could change.",
">\n\nI'm not sure how our Supreme Court is voted in tbh. But I have never heard of a vote for Supreme Court. I believe they are possibly voted on internally or in very small and locally controlled elections. Just my guess like I said I have never heard of an election I could vote in.",
">\n\nthis election is just another example of how the Supreme Court really fucked Republicans by overturning Roe.\nIf the liberal judge wins, the state supreme court can rule the state gerrymanders, that have been in place for over a decade, unconstitutional. Wisconsin would transform from a shithole red state to the actual purple state that it is. \nBut getting people to vote in an April election to fix the state government is hard, because people have generally bought into the Republican propaganda that government is inherently broken and can't be fixed. But getting people to vote in April to restore abortion rights to the state will be MUCH easier.",
">\n\nSo basically all the states with sky-high maternal mortality before the overturning of Roe are about get a lot worse. \n“Pro-life” 🤡",
">\n\nMaternal mortality rates are caused by many factors, mostly including the initial health of the mother. The states with the highest maternal mortality also happen to be the states with the fattest women. Of course, poverty has a hand in that as well, so I’m not letting anyone off the hook here, just pointing out that it’s not as simple as “they don’t care about women”.",
">\n\nThe parasite states.",
">\n\nThirteen of them. Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Montana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Alabama",
">\n\nWhat the living fuck happened to Wisconsin? 50 years ago it was one of the most progressive states. Maybe top 5.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gerrymandered it to hell and neutered the powers of the Executive branch.",
">\n\nStates to not move to. The usual suspected so far.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing how consistent that list tends to be, isn’t it?",
">\n\nGeorgia is at least moving in the left direction by electing blue Senators.",
">\n\nthey have a MTG problem though. And the Warnock election was way too close. They were a hair's breath away from electing Hershel fuckin Walker.",
">\n\nTbf, MTG ran unopposed. Literally nobody lives in her bumfuck district. Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are the only things pulling us blue, but the rest of the state is a backwards mess.",
">\n\nMy in laws all live there I just said that outside of Atlanta its very red so although there are blue senators nationally, on a state level its still very red and not moving left very quickly if at all.",
">\n\nExactly which is so sad bc there's so much potential 😔. Oh well..",
">\n\nIt looks like cancer growing out of the South.",
">\n\nSomething something history repeating itself",
">\n\nA comprehensive list of states not to live in.",
">\n\nWhen will women start to leave these states?",
">\n\nIt's going to be a brain drain, and it's going to be horrific for those states specifically in the fields of nursing and teaching.",
">\n\nDoesn’t matter. Those states are closing hospitals and restricting education already",
">\n\nIdaho already sends a lot of its patients into Washington for care anyway, in true red-state fashion they can't take care of themselves.",
">\n\nYep, fucking love seeing maskless folks climbing out of cars with idaho plates when we take my mom to chemo.",
">\n\nI'm relieved mine died before the pandemic. The only thing worse than holding your Moms' hand as she takes her last breath is not being allowed to do so. All the best to you and your Mom. Fuck cancer. I hope she kicks its' ass.",
">\n\nWhat they said. Dad passed a bit before the covid thing, and I'm now kind of glad of it, since his compromised immune system would have meant it hit the whole household if he so much as got looked at funny by a carrier.\nAnd since I live in a little ratfuck republican town in Eastern WA, he -would- have gotten looked at funny by a carrier.\nLocals here picket the Planned Parenthood every week. Place doesn't even do abortions.",
">\n\nI'm sorry for your loss.",
">\n\nYours as well.",
">\n\nIt’s so weird seeing Wisconsin change from a progressive populist blue state to a purple state that operates like it’s deep red.",
">\n\nOne of the worst as far as gerrymandering impact. Also, there was that supreme court case up there that said during Covid you couldn't extend time to mail in Ballots even though in Milwaukee they went from 180 polling places to 5 because \"ordinarily\" the courts should change voting rules. Except was covid extrodinary?\nFucking hypocrites.",
">\n\nStates that I will never go to or spend a dime in",
">\n\nYeehaw.",
">\n\nThe new Chastity Belt.\nForced birth ribbon\nHypocrisy knows these boundaries.",
">\n\nWow. This has some overlap with the Slave States. The States with the lowest lifespans. The States with the highest rate of divorce by 30. The States with the highest poverty rate. And the lowest income. And the highest incarceration rate.",
">\n\nAnd the highest maternal mortality rate.\nAnd the highest infant mortality rate.",
">\n\nStates where Jews have set up an \"abortion underground railroad\" because fuck religious assholes trying to deprive us of our 1st amendment rights.",
">\n\nI don’t usually upvote comments that start with “States where Jews have set up…” but here you go",
">\n\nI, uh, was a little nervous about where that was going, too.",
">\n\nOkay, now do a map that overlays the locations of the former confederate states, and locations of known neonazi compounds (like the one in North idaho).\n-insert theyre the same picture meme.",
">\n\nThis is an increasingly barbaric country.",
">\n\nGet your children, yourselves, and your money out of Gilead while you still can.",
">\n\n/r/welcometogilead",
">\n\nSix week bans are effectively bans, and those are in more states.",
">\n\nSo happy Michigan put an end to that shit",
">\n\nMe too man. I got an IUD 4 months before the ban but I had an emergency plan + finances in case I ever had a positive pregnancy test, because there'd be a 50% chance of ectopic. And it's not safe to have an ectopic pregnancy in a state with a full ban. I would suffer for sure, and possibly die. \nI would have left immediately if I had a positive test and hope we can make the 12 hour drive before any complications.\nThank goodness it's unnecessary for me, but it's an unrelenting reality for millions of women in these other states",
">\n\nIn May (despite my username I reside in MI) I asked my physician to replace my IUD even though I had 5-6 years left with it. She thought I was overly paranoid because of the Roe leak (but she did replace it). When I went back in in October she apologized for not taking my fears as seriously as she should have. \nThe relief I felt when Prop 3 passed made me cry. No matter what happens, my bodily autonomy can’t be taken away from me now. \nI am trying hard to convince friends and family to GTFO of Oklahoma.",
">\n\nI am trying to convince certain friends and family to leave Michigan for a state that follows their oppressive ideologies. Michigan is just too free, I don’t want them in the voting booth here. I hope your friends and family aren’t going to try turning this state into Oklahoma.",
">\n\nIs this the \"Stupid Belt?\"",
">\n\nAs a former Wisconsinite I vote stupid belt and a mitten",
">\n\nThe only good mitten state is the great state of Michigan!!!!",
">\n\nI believe that you could own slaves at one time in most of those states, so they’re already familiar with the concept of people being property…",
">\n\nWell said.",
">\n\nI’m response to the ban here in Alabama and overall lack of healthcare present, my girlfriend and I decided I would get a vasectomy right before my 21 birthday last October. I had many doctors and a plethora of my family and friends tell me I’m making a mistake and how the Bible they study says not to do such a thing. I did some research and made it happen as I care for my partners safety more than I care about some unjust ideology that is constantly forced upon the citizens of America.",
">\n\nI'm so, so sorry for the lame pun, but that takes some balls. You sound wise beyond your years. I wish you and your girlfriend a lifetime of worry-free sex.",
">\n\nThe public needs step by step instructions on how to fix the issue. Not trackers of doom. Not tragedies that subsume \"action.\" Not sad stories or fawning history lessons. \nFFS, people need a road map with instructions.",
">\n\nThanks to climate change, at least half of those states will become borderline (if not completely) uninhabitable",
">\n\nYeah, but then they’ll migrate es masse to the sane states and eventually turn us batshit too",
">\n\nWe're gonna build a wall. A beautiful, twenty, no, forty-foot wall. And Kentucky's gonna pay for it. Missouri is another one, Missouri can pay along with Kentucky. And we'll have a big beautiful wall, and we'll let some through, the right ones. You have to do what I've started calling \"deep vetting,\" because some of these people, they wanna come here and break things, because, believe me, when these shithole states are sending people, they're not sending their best.",
">\n\nShocked that Ohio isn’t on there….yet",
">\n\nGov check states. Who would have thought.",
">\n\nMost of these states also don't teach sex ed in school.",
">\n\nWisconsin isn’t a shit state we just have a shit senator…",
">\n\nI know someone who works in neonatal at major hospital in Texas. The coming storm is going to devastate health care for pregnant women, and state budgets will be forced to care for unwanted pregnancies of deformed children. Obstetricians and gynecologists will avoid any procedures that they may fear causes them to be arrested. And that's if they remain in the red states. My friend said many are already talking about moving to friendlier states.\nThis friend also told me the hospitals are planning for this crisis in the coming years. Meanwhile, the GOP remains blissfully ignorant of the shit storm they are creating.",
">\n\nThe GOP is well aware. More unwanted pregnancy means more low income wage slaves for the wealthy.",
">\n\nStarting to wish that the South was allowed to leave.",
">\n\nOnce again. I’ll never understand why the Republican mindset is so concerned over controlling the bodies of well over 50% of the population of the United States starting with women and ending (for now) with LGBQ people. Mind yer own sexuality, ya pervs.",
">\n\nAt what point can we start tracking the impact this has on society? Legit question",
">\n\nThe abortion bans are just an extension of the shit policies of these states. If you compare a map of poor healthcare, maternity death, child hunger, poor performing schools, and poverty, you’ll find the map looks similar. These states are designed to keep people down.",
">\n\nThis! I’ve seen these same states shaded in so many maps, and it’s never good.",
">\n\n\"Mississippi - Banned with exceptions for rape, but not incest\" \nThe most \"Mississippi\" sentence I have ever read.",
">\n\nWisconsin, the Alabama of the North!",
">\n\nYeah fuck you missouri. Hate living in this shit ass backwards state",
">\n\nI really don't get it. No one wants to do it intentionally anyway if they can avoid it. What is the point of banning it, when it's normally done in desperation, and they will do it anyway, banned or not, may be in more dangerous way. I feel so depressed, the country that meant to be one of the most free and advanced, going backwards to make people suffer unnecessarily.",
">\n\nThey want to control women",
">\n\nNow do a map of poverty rates.",
">\n\nMap of states where you should not live.",
">\n\nUnfortunately I do. Idaho is now officially the Florida of the North.",
">\n\nI see a pattern.",
">\n\nDo these count as shithole states? Asking because I live in one.",
">\n\nPlaces to never visit, check!",
">\n\nOh look... it's the south",
">\n\nNeed a modern day General Sherman of abortion rights",
">\n\nKansas is holding the south at bay.",
">\n\nSo damn embarrassed for WI.. re-electing RoJo was just the cherry on the pile of shit.",
">\n\nI lived in rural WI most of my life. The voter apathy among millennials is horrible. Everyone I knew either was Republican because some dumb team-mentality bs ,or they were closeted Democrats in ideology but “voting doesn’t matter anyways!” “Both sides are bad.” “Nothing changes anyways.” “I don’t want to get selected to jury dutyyyy.” These statements were from multiple people! It was infuriating! Roe being struck down pissed some people off, but still not enough to get them to actually try to change anything. \nI feel so bad for those who tried to make it better, and are now stuck with these results, but man there needs to be some type of deprogramming for the parts outside Madison and Milwaukee. It’s literally looked at as “uncool” to be a Democrat and gets super toxic depending on who you end up talking with about it. This was my perspective in WI.",
">\n\nI live in the one shaped like a boot. Y’all, it fucking sucks here.",
">\n\nI know that one! Italy!",
">\n\nUtah isn’t on the list???",
">\n\nIt's the map of the worst states.",
">\n\nStates where women are no longer people",
">\n\nAmazing, women had their rights stripped all across this nation\n\nAnd have done nothing about it.\nPeople are sheep.",
">\n\nLook how it lines up mostly with the slaver states of the old confederacy.",
">\n\nThe paywall is a nice touch. \nYou can't afford or are not ready for a child. \nFor a fee the NYT will tell you where you can safely go.",
">\n\nHow are they supposed to pay their reporters?",
">\n\nGenital herpes of America.",
">\n\nThis type of map makes me really wonder what is America suppose to be?\nIf we go by the original constitution we are to be a federation, and more akin to the EU with various states with a high level of authority to make their own decisions. \nBut since the civil war, we really said \"hey you fuckwad backwater states can't be trusted\" and pulled towards a more centralized system where federal law reigns more powerful. \nI see this discourse between left and right and we swing on which side America should be based on the issue. \nIf federalism is the correct model - then we should abolish a lot of the rules that make the coasts subsidize the south and Midwest. We should be free to legalize what we want, ban what we don't. And the federal government should be forced to recognize our will. Obviously this will impede a lot of commerce and travel since people won't want to cross the line into places like Idaho. \nIf it's a centralized government- then they need to STFU with all this backwards stuff. No more electoral college, no more abortion bans because a few states wanted it.",
">\n\nSo weird but all of these are on my list of states I’d rather not go to.",
">\n\nOh hey, look. The shithole part of America.",
">\n\nOh cool, all these states suck to live in anyway! But thanks for the reminder of places to never go to. I feel bad for all the folks who can’t afford to leave though…",
">\n\nLong live the confederacy! /s",
">\n\nIf anyone is a history buff, now compare those states with ones that were in The Confederacy. Aside from those three northern states and surprising absent Florida, SC and NC... its fairly close to the Confederate Maps",
">\n\nRule by minority. Unless people start taking to the street and using their constitutional rights, nothing will change.",
">\n\nPretty much the whole confederacy reppin red. Interesting. Not surprised about the other 3.",
">\n\nThe states where a politician decides what is and isn't healthcare for women.",
">\n\nAlso some of the states with the worst healthcare in the country.",
">\n\nIf they ever make a Batshit Crazy! map.. it will look like this.\nEvery time I see a map covering a topic that would help America or not help America, the not help segment always looks just like this.",
">\n\nI fought to get Roe VS wade the conservative Supreme Court Justices are going to stop birth control too. Very rich no problem get a abortion while on a European vacation get birth control too.Amazing how a group who lost it if you asked them to wear mask .Are supportive with controlling other lives in such a deep personal way for at least 18 yrs.Their pro birth not pro life the mother. can die how insane is the usa I'm ashamed of how our young women are treated but it's Unbelievably true",
">\n\nOh wow. It's the states I would never want to live in.",
">\n\nSo by car, theres about 4 days of just driving somewhere if you live in the 4th most populous city in the country, Houston.",
">\n\nCan we now legislate vasectomies for males, we can allow them to reverse it upon legal marriage.",
">\n\nI live in MI, and when all the props passed it was such a relief. My heart goes out to all the women living in those banned areas.",
">\n\nNice map of backward shitholes you have there.",
">\n\nThe ignorance nee prison nee crime nee meth nee heroin belt!",
">\n\nOf course the entire confederacy wants to stay locked in the past. If they could bring back slavery, they would. This is better for them though since they are the poorest states in the nation they can bleed more tax dollars of the rest of us to support all those unwanted pregnancies.",
">\n\nNo decent people live in any of those states anyway. Let them enjoy the hell of their own making.",
">\n\nA lot of decent people are in those states, but wealthy indecent people have the power there.",
">\n\nDisagree. Decent people left. The remainders voted for these assholes. They can lay in the beds they’ve made.",
">\n\nThat’s not even close to true.",
">\n\nTell that to the children having their rapist’s babies 🤷♂️",
">\n\nYou think poor people who can’t afford to leave and are having their votes suppressed deserve it?",
">\n\nGet voter participation into the 90s% and then I’ll listen to your boohooing about voter suppression. \nUntil then, they get what they vote for—or what they don’t vote against. \nTake some responsibility for a fucking change.",
">\n\nIs this a joke?? \nVoter suppression…prevents higher voter participation. It’s the whole reason it exists.",
">\n\nWhich of these are realistically flippable? GA is trending better, and im pretending TX is happening anytime soon. What else?",
">\n\nIf TX flips in my lifetime then I’ll buy a hat and eat it. I finally left",
">\n\nFuck everyone who says wv was part of the confederacy. Yes WV gas idiot legislators but despite its “shithole” status there are nice things about the place. Not everyone here wants restrictive abortion rights. It’s important to remember that people in these states fight the hood fight as well.",
">\n\nThe minute hand ticks.",
">\n\nIs this redundant for Idaho, I thought there weren’t enough people there to support any new pregnancies.",
">\n\nI thought ND had one",
">\n\nphew",
">\n\nWisconsin trying real hard to join the club.",
">\n\nDoes anyone know where the states with a ban landed on things like miscarriage and non viable pregnancy?",
">\n\nInfant mortality and crime rate drastically increases within the next 15 years. Blame the libs, libs owned. I get that half of these states probably aimed this litigation for population growth (OK,ID and SD in particular). A large portion of those raised there don’t stay.\nAs a Texan, I believe that this has zero to due with anything related to population or religion, but a means to crank up the crime rates in metropolitan areas in the future for further longevity in the red controlled foothold. But the next 2 state elections will be huge, particularly if the 18-35 demographic actually show up to the polls.",
">\n\ndualing banjos plays",
">\n\n“Tracking the states where church and state need to be separated is how read that”",
">\n\nSoutherner here. Our states are gerrymandered from hell to breakfast. There are many blue voters here but our votes are swallowed up by the GOP gerrymandering machine. We need voter protection laws and ranked choice voting. We need a lot of things, actually.",
">\n\nThis reads like a list of places in the states you shouldn't visit.",
">\n\nInteresting how Republicans tried to turn Wisconsin into a Bible Belt vassal state with extreme gerrymandering, and mostly succeeded.",
">\n\nLove a good pay wall…",
">\n\nNaturally it's the states that are at the bottom of the pack in every meaningful quality of life metric",
">\n\nI can’t read the article at all.",
">\n\nFreedom.",
">\n\nNow, do an overlay of the states with the poorest education....."
] |
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...if it ever arrives that is. | [
"Mizu will go down as one of the greatest color ways of all time. PBT Mizu (non-retro) would be an instant buy from me if the kits are good."
] |
> | [
"Mizu will go down as one of the greatest color ways of all time. PBT Mizu (non-retro) would be an instant buy from me if the kits are good.",
">\n\n...if it ever arrives that is."
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This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other. | [] |
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Ukraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other."
] |
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If they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face."
] |
>
because it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would."
] |
>
The only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities."
] |
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Sure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone."
] |
>
I hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so."
] |
>
Yeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't."
] |
>
In Russia, cigarette smokes you! | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be"
] |
>
They made their bed. Now for the bed bugs | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!"
] |
>
Again? | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs"
] |
>
Someone seems to been smoking in the wrong place again. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs",
">\n\nAgain?"
] |
>
Belgorod is close to a warzone so stress levels must be causing smokers to be reckless. Tabaco is the Wests fault. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs",
">\n\nAgain?",
">\n\nSomeone seems to been smoking in the wrong place again."
] |
>
Can we get the rest of Russia to explode as well? That would be great. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs",
">\n\nAgain?",
">\n\nSomeone seems to been smoking in the wrong place again.",
">\n\nBelgorod is close to a warzone so stress levels must be causing smokers to be reckless. Tabaco is the Wests fault."
] |
>
False flag to stir up people to join the army to defend the country? | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs",
">\n\nAgain?",
">\n\nSomeone seems to been smoking in the wrong place again.",
">\n\nBelgorod is close to a warzone so stress levels must be causing smokers to be reckless. Tabaco is the Wests fault.",
">\n\nCan we get the rest of Russia to explode as well? That would be great."
] |
>
That would need to be further in country, and there'd be more damage than explosions reported. | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs",
">\n\nAgain?",
">\n\nSomeone seems to been smoking in the wrong place again.",
">\n\nBelgorod is close to a warzone so stress levels must be causing smokers to be reckless. Tabaco is the Wests fault.",
">\n\nCan we get the rest of Russia to explode as well? That would be great.",
">\n\nFalse flag to stir up people to join the army to defend the country?"
] |
> | [
"This war will bring itself onto their territory some day or other.",
">\n\nUkraine doesn’t have the military power to invade Russia. Though I’m sure there will be more air and missile strikes. All they have to do is resist Russia until Putin runs out of money and does some fancied-up “mission accomplished” withdrawal to save face.",
">\n\nIf they can retake their own cities, why couldn't they take a city like Belgorod? Not saying they are or would.",
">\n\nbecause it does not make any sense to spend lives taking the unnecessary cities.",
">\n\nThe only thing I could see would be as a bargaining chip to get them to stop with their invasion. To bring them to the table for some real dialogue instead of the BS Putin has been saying then maybe they would leave all of Ukraine alone.",
">\n\nSure is weird how many things have blown up around Belgorod the past year or so.",
">\n\nI hear Russians have an unfortunate habit of smoking where they shouldn't.",
">\n\nYeah there are a ton in smoking craters in Ukraine where they should be",
">\n\nIn Russia, cigarette smokes you!",
">\n\nThey made their bed. Now for the bed bugs",
">\n\nAgain?",
">\n\nSomeone seems to been smoking in the wrong place again.",
">\n\nBelgorod is close to a warzone so stress levels must be causing smokers to be reckless. Tabaco is the Wests fault.",
">\n\nCan we get the rest of Russia to explode as well? That would be great.",
">\n\nFalse flag to stir up people to join the army to defend the country?",
">\n\nThat would need to be further in country, and there'd be more damage than explosions reported."
] |
Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible. | [] |
>
Operation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure. | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible."
] |
>
He did it so he could take credit for "curing the pandemic". It's so weird to watch it backfire like this. | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible.",
">\n\nOperation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure."
] |
>
Trump supporters are even dumber then the man they follow. | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible.",
">\n\nOperation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure.",
">\n\nHe did it so he could take credit for \"curing the pandemic\". It's so weird to watch it backfire like this."
] |
>
You know the idea of a "horse whisperer"? A person with an innate ability to communicate with horses.
This guy is an "idiot whisperer". | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible.",
">\n\nOperation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure.",
">\n\nHe did it so he could take credit for \"curing the pandemic\". It's so weird to watch it backfire like this.",
">\n\nTrump supporters are even dumber then the man they follow."
] |
>
He's both an idiot-whisperer and an idiot whisperer | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible.",
">\n\nOperation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure.",
">\n\nHe did it so he could take credit for \"curing the pandemic\". It's so weird to watch it backfire like this.",
">\n\nTrump supporters are even dumber then the man they follow.",
">\n\nYou know the idea of a \"horse whisperer\"? A person with an innate ability to communicate with horses.\nThis guy is an \"idiot whisperer\"."
] |
>
Well that's true, now most of Republican voters believe that 2020 election was stolen by democrats all thanks to him | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible.",
">\n\nOperation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure.",
">\n\nHe did it so he could take credit for \"curing the pandemic\". It's so weird to watch it backfire like this.",
">\n\nTrump supporters are even dumber then the man they follow.",
">\n\nYou know the idea of a \"horse whisperer\"? A person with an innate ability to communicate with horses.\nThis guy is an \"idiot whisperer\".",
">\n\nHe's both an idiot-whisperer and an idiot whisperer"
] |
>
This is his fault, though. He spent so long telling them that a hoax Covid was and that the vaccines were dangerous that when he switched tone, he sounded stupid... even to them. | [
"Heh. They turn on him the one and only time he says something remotely sensible.",
">\n\nOperation Warp speed was the only good policy he implemented, go figure.",
">\n\nHe did it so he could take credit for \"curing the pandemic\". It's so weird to watch it backfire like this.",
">\n\nTrump supporters are even dumber then the man they follow.",
">\n\nYou know the idea of a \"horse whisperer\"? A person with an innate ability to communicate with horses.\nThis guy is an \"idiot whisperer\".",
">\n\nHe's both an idiot-whisperer and an idiot whisperer",
">\n\nWell that's true, now most of Republican voters believe that 2020 election was stolen by democrats all thanks to him"
] |
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