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>	[ "But Scottish Enterprise sources say there will be no attempt to recover the money as the conditions attached to funding had been met and are now expired.\nThe conditions included creating a certain number of jobs which would be retained over an agreed number of years.", ">\n\nHow much has it brought into the area in the last 17 years? It might have proved value for money.", ">\n\nThis was 17 years ago? Fucking hell - this is a bit if a stretch for a headline.", ">\n\nGovernment and big business work together to fleece the public yet again.", ">\n\nThat’s OK, Scots don’t hold grudges.\n/s", ">\n\nHahaha", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 90%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nAMAZON which is planning to close its distribution centre in Inverclyde with the loss of several hundred jobs is under pressure to refund the 2.137m of taxpayers' money it received to establish and expand it, the Herald can reveal.\nThe Herald can reveal that the Amazon plan received three tranches of taxpayers' money between 2005 and 2011 to develop the centre.\nAmazon UK Services, which received the money, saw its operating profit soar by 58.5% in 2021 to £229.2m. The planned closure comes as Amazon prepares to open new delivery warehouses in Peddimore in the West Midlands and Stockton-on-Tees, County Durham, which will employ 2,500 people.\n\n\nExtended Summary \| FAQ \| Feedback \| Top keywords: AMAZON^#1 new^#2 job^#3 Scottish^#4 centre^#5", ">\n\nThey. Don't. Care. About. You. We are money slaves to them, we exist to be worked till exhaustion, so we can afford to buy what they're selling.", ">\n\nScots fault for not putting stipulations into the contract if they're upset with it.", ">\n\nThey did and Amazon satisfied them?", ">\n\nWe're going down like B.H.S.", ">\n\nLol so basically they got mugged off. Classic Amazon.", ">\n\nwell 17 years of it running" ]
I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.	[]
> Smash the Fash	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues." ]
> How Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC Thought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash" ]
> I've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context." ]
> I guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone." ]
> So we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!" ]
> Send Stone and Bannon for questioning.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!" ]
> I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning." ]
> Smash the Fash	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues." ]
> How Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC Thought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash" ]
> I've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context." ]
> Can we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~? ^^^^No-takies-backies	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone." ]
> I guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies" ]
> So we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!" ]
> Send Stone and Bannon for questioning.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!" ]
> I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning." ]
> Smash the Fash	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues." ]
> How Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC Thought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash" ]
> I've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context." ]
> Can we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~? ^^^^No-takies-backies	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone." ]
> I guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies" ]
> So we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!" ]
> Send Stone and Bannon for questioning.	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!" ]
>	[ "I find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that Bolsonaro arrives in the US 8 days before the coup attempt and then a day later after it fails has stomach issues.", ">\n\nSmash the Fash", ">\n\nHow Trump's allies stoked Brazil Congress attack \| BBC\nThought I’d share this link with the article to add some context.", ">\n\nI've got some names to help get them started: Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, the trump family, and likely Roger Stone.", ">\n\nCan we also give them George Santos as a gift ~~of Good Will~~?\n^^^^No-takies-backies", ">\n\nI guess this our way of getting Brazil to do our dirty work. Let's get those extradition requests rolling!", ">\n\nSo we’ll have more proof of right wing involvement in things we have no interest in holding people accountable for. Sounds good!", ">\n\nSend Stone and Bannon for questioning." ]
This is a friendly reminder to read our rules. Remember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not "thoughts had in the shower!" (For an explanation of what a "showerthought" is, please read this page.) Rule-breaking posts may result in bans.	[]
> Squirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans." ]
> Squirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails." ]
> And cats. I'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs." ]
> Not sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)" ]
> Well, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats." ]
> Thanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas." ]
> Which doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms" ]
> And now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works." ]
> With the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!" ]
> I love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance" ]
> Is the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise." ]
> Both probably	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?" ]
> I don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably" ]
> Squirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say" ]
> And then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally" ]
> I love those videos!!	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov)." ]
> Squirrels use their tails for communication more than balance	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!" ]
> Squirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance" ]
> 🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking" ]
> That's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜" ]
> I'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)" ]
> That’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone)." ]
> Have you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance." ]
> You must be fun at parties	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.", ">\n\nHave you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over" ]
> Squirrel tails are so they don't die in their sleep in the winter too	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.", ">\n\nHave you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over", ">\n\nYou must be fun at parties" ]
> I'll bet squirrels aren't aware their balance comes from their tails	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.", ">\n\nHave you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over", ">\n\nYou must be fun at parties", ">\n\nSquirrel tails are so they don't die in their sleep in the winter too" ]
> or waving them to say, i see you, stay away. had a squirrel do that to me when i was creeping on it from my balcony	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.", ">\n\nHave you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over", ">\n\nYou must be fun at parties", ">\n\nSquirrel tails are so they don't die in their sleep in the winter too", ">\n\nI'll bet squirrels aren't aware their balance comes from their tails" ]
> a squirrel probably don't know that its tail is for balance at all	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.", ">\n\nHave you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over", ">\n\nYou must be fun at parties", ">\n\nSquirrel tails are so they don't die in their sleep in the winter too", ">\n\nI'll bet squirrels aren't aware their balance comes from their tails", ">\n\nor waving them to say, i see you, stay away.\nhad a squirrel do that to me when i was creeping on it from my balcony" ]
>	[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nSquirrel only think dog devil beast that is not squirrel. Squirrel no have time to ponder tails.", ">\n\nSquirrels on the ground yes, but squirrels in a tree loooooove fucking with dogs.", ">\n\nAnd cats. \nI'll never forget the squirrel on a telephone pole actually shaking his fist at my cat (I had just put some peanuts down and was trying to get the cat anyway. Squirrel really wanted those peanuts.)", ">\n\nNot sure I can trust a raccoon to give an unbiased opinion on cats.", ">\n\nWell, being as this one is sapient, they shouldn’t have to be painted with the same prejudices they must endure from being relatives of the trash pandas.", ">\n\nThanks Captain Kirk, we really appreciate your experience with intelligent lifeforms", ">\n\nWhich doesn't appear to be this one as they don't understand how a pack of cards works.", ">\n\nAnd now we're back to a (non sapient) dog!", ">\n\nWith the amount of excitement a dog usually shows, they might as well be, in a sense, out of balance", ">\n\nI love picking up my little dog and watching her tail do circles. So cute but I won't drop you I promise.", ">\n\nIs the tail used for balance, or does the tail have aerodynamic properties that make a squirrel less likely to die from falling?", ">\n\nBoth probably", ">\n\nI don't think this is completely true..........I always see squirrels flicking their little tails around and teasing my animals with them. They seem to have a lot to say", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails to communicate too. I’ve heard it can be an issue for some squirrels if they lose their tale that it’s harder for them to interact with other squirrels as they lose their ability to communicate non-verbally", ">\n\nAnd then they roll over so we can rub their bellies, thus proving their point (from their pov).", ">\n\nI love those videos!!", ">\n\nSquirrels use their tails for communication more than balance", ">\n\nSquirrels probably don’t have that level of critical thinking", ">\n\n🐿 are my favorite animals. They are the most adorable creatures. 💜", ">\n\nThat's a Chipmunk (Stripes) - Not a Squirrel (No Stripes)", ">\n\nI'm sure they are aware. Unfortunately that's the best emoji there is for squirrels (at least on my phone).", ">\n\nThat’s why squirrels are always so nervous and fidgety, they’re just worried about their dog bros losing their balance.", ">\n\nHave you met a dog? When they’re happy they are in a perpetual state of almost falling over", ">\n\nYou must be fun at parties", ">\n\nSquirrel tails are so they don't die in their sleep in the winter too", ">\n\nI'll bet squirrels aren't aware their balance comes from their tails", ">\n\nor waving them to say, i see you, stay away.\nhad a squirrel do that to me when i was creeping on it from my balcony", ">\n\na squirrel probably don't know that its tail is for balance at all" ]
90% fail. Think how many barely make it buy and no profit. Yah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO. To be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.	[]
> Where are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business." ]
> America is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans." ]
> In my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in." ]
> Lol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k." ]
> That makes sense! Thanks.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)" ]
> I agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two. Some months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan. My mental health has gone down over the years.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks." ]
> That’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years." ]
> And most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want." ]
> Also hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression" ]
> Yeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself" ]
> In my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke." ]
> You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job." ]
> Its 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself." ]
> Starting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business. It’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify" ]
> If you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly. It's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else." ]
> It is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit. 1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor. 2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again. 3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company. A rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week." ]
> Yup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can." ]
> If people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough. Literally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want." ]
> I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical" ]
> If you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail. It's the same thing with telling people "major in STEM." This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do," ]
> I want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM." ]
> Instead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS." ]
> Eh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers)." ]
> Thats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. Im not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation." ]
> It definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify" ]
> I have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario. Yes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. The catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service." ]
> The catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else. This is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit. I also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else." ]
> Haha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster." ]
> Most people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that" ]
> No, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow." ]
> There really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from." ]
> I always tell people who want to start their own business: Be prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years Be prepared to work 100 hrs a week No matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. If you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar. After all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family. And for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to "clean their fucking rooms". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it. The last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to. One of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older. Be careful what you wish for.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me." ]
> It’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for." ]
> And there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business)." ]
> I sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air." ]
> You’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try" ]
> Giving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW." ]
> There are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. Yes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience." ]
> Word	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.", ">\n\nThere are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. \nYes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting." ]
> Starting your own business is a very reliable way to fail and be broke as fuck. If you look closely, most people who talk about "being their own boss" and "starting their own business" are people of questionable educational qualifications and dubious work ethic.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.", ">\n\nThere are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. \nYes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting.", ">\n\nWord" ]
> Rich people's advice to get rich is for people to take on debt and pay more rent, quelle surprise!	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.", ">\n\nThere are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. \nYes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting.", ">\n\nWord", ">\n\nStarting your own business is a very reliable way to fail and be broke as fuck. If you look closely, most people who talk about \"being their own boss\" and \"starting their own business\" are people of questionable educational qualifications and dubious work ethic." ]
> I can tell you that being self employed for nearly 25 years (IT Consultant) has definitely been preferable to working for someone else. I took a 6 month Chief Admin job a few years back for a medical association and was glad to go back to work for myself.	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.", ">\n\nThere are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. \nYes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting.", ">\n\nWord", ">\n\nStarting your own business is a very reliable way to fail and be broke as fuck. If you look closely, most people who talk about \"being their own boss\" and \"starting their own business\" are people of questionable educational qualifications and dubious work ethic.", ">\n\nRich people's advice to get rich is for people to take on debt and pay more rent, quelle surprise!" ]
> IT Consultant quelle surprise	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.", ">\n\nThere are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. \nYes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting.", ">\n\nWord", ">\n\nStarting your own business is a very reliable way to fail and be broke as fuck. If you look closely, most people who talk about \"being their own boss\" and \"starting their own business\" are people of questionable educational qualifications and dubious work ethic.", ">\n\nRich people's advice to get rich is for people to take on debt and pay more rent, quelle surprise!", ">\n\nI can tell you that being self employed for nearly 25 years (IT Consultant) has definitely been preferable to working for someone else. I took a 6 month Chief Admin job a few years back for a medical association and was glad to go back to work for myself." ]
> I am sure that the landscaper/lawn maintenance/mechanic and the list goes on would have received the same response. It has been true that nothing is shocking for a long time	[ "90% fail.\nThink how many barely make it buy and no profit.\nYah it's overatted af, unless you wanna start your own LLC for certain things there is no point IMO.\nTo be, it's kind of cool. The US is the only country where they will chuck money at you to start a business.", ">\n\nWhere are they chucking money at people to start businesses? There's tons of costs associated with starting a new business-licenses, insurance, rent, taxes. The only people getting money chucked at them are people with a lot of money already because they can easily access loans.", ">\n\nAmerica is BY FAR the easiest country to start a new business in.", ">\n\nIn my country it costs like $50 to register a company and IIRC you don't need anything special. Don't even need to register for GST tax until your revenue is >$60k.", ">\n\nLol they don’t mean the legal cost to make a business entity. They mean VC funding is abundant in America so you can actually grow the business (people, office space, R&D, etc.)", ">\n\nThat makes sense! Thanks.", ">\n\nI agree. I have multiple degrees and started my own business. Been at it about 20 years. I make a small profit for the last 15 years or so. However, the amount of time I spend at it it crazy. I get no real vacations as I’m the owner and boss. I can’t just walk away for a day or two.\nSome months are better than others. But I’ve really wanted to just walk away and find a job that I can get a steady income, not have to work 15 hours a day, get actual vacation time and maybe even some kind of pension plan.\nMy mental health has gone down over the years.", ">\n\nThat’s the real risk. Not that you fail, but that you don’t while also not succeeding the way you want.", ">\n\nAnd most of it is survivorship bias. Of course you’ll hear more about the successful ones than the majority that fails and that’ll skew your impression", ">\n\nAlso hate this advice when I say “I hate having a boss”. You know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself", ">\n\nYeah it's overrated, fine if you're really passionate about something, like selling shit that people don't need. I rather just wanna be able to pay rent and not be broke.", ">\n\nIn my experience, the fastest way to kill your passion for something is to make it your job.", ">\n\nYou know, the thing is I hate bosses, I obviously don’t want to be one myself.", ">\n\nIts 50% of businesses fail in the first year and 75% in 7 years not 90% but also depends on what country you are in which op didn't specify", ">\n\nStarting your own business is great advice for people who have the money to start their own business.\nIt’s terrible advice for nearly everyone else.", ">\n\nIf you know what you're doing from the start, have a plan for how you will attract business, keep customers and grow your business then you should be fine. Everyone can get unlucky and plans can go bad, but you are far more likely to succeed if you have put some thought into how you are going to work, what can go wrong, and how to deal with anything that goes badly.\nIt's 15 years since I went it alone and I can promise you I don't work anything like 100 hours a week.", ">\n\nIt is unless you are rich. I read this somewhere probably reddit.\n1. Poor person scrapes up 15k gets a loan for 100k it fails. They can't try again and spend the rest of there life paying it back poor.\n2. Middle class person. saves up 50k borrow 50k. It fails. They end up in a regular job again and instead of trying to save for retirement are paying a loan and have to work longer. Not doing this again.\n3. Rich person. Wastes 1 million starting multiple businesses. The first 9 fail. Living exactly the same. On the 10th attempt they hit it big and end up owning a wildly successful company.\nA rich person can recover easily. Nobody else can.", ">\n\nYup, I heard the analogy it's like playing darts and each dart is a business. The business is successful if you hit bullseye. Poor people generally get no darts, maybe one. Middle class will mostly get one, maybe two or three. Rich person has basically as many darts as they want.", ">\n\nIf people are stupid enough to buy 100s of same dropshipping or affiliate marketing courses no wonder. Those markets are so oversaturated it is almost impossible to breakthrough.\nLiterally no one of them speak about actual bussiness which serve real purpose and are practical", ">\n\nI work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do,", ">\n\nIf you're a smart guy and a hard worker, it makes sense to start your own business. However, most people are dumber than shit and lazy as hell so they are bound to fail.\nIt's the same thing with telling people \"major in STEM.\" This isn't helpful if you are stupid as shit or just plain fucking hate STEM.", ">\n\nI want to question the stat 90%. I have ended businesses and never told some information gatherer about it. Ending them wasn't always failure either, sometimes it was for something better that the business led to. I agree with OPs assessment of self-employment. It isn't as glamorous as most people think when they start, it is more complicated and you have more bosses not less, but I love the flexibility and control that I get. I also think it can be lower risk too. Start in a field that you already work in, in a location you have been for a while with pre-established customers or contacts, with no debt or minimal debt and your chances of success are high. Start a restaurant with 500k in debt, 25k weekly expenses and you are trying to make it back $20 at a time, yah that looks bleak. I really think its worth finding out where that stat comes from and how it is figured. Seems about right for food service started with debt, but for landscapers, construction guys, snow powers etc it seems like BS.", ">\n\n\nInstead of having one boss, you have 200 (your customers).", ">\n\nEh it depends. If you practice a profession and start your own business doing that, you don't need a good product. You only need a clientbase and an established reputation.", ">\n\nThats not the same as owning a business. Thats owning your own job. \nIm not saying its bad, but just wanting to clarify", ">\n\nIt definitely is owning a business. Running your own firm requires everything a business requires: a huge capital investment, risk-taking, building a customer base and reinvesting your profits. The only real difference is that you don't have to invent a product or service.", ">\n\nI have to disagree with this. I’ve been “my own boss” for almost 15 years and now that I’m well into my thirties, I honestly can’t imagine any other scenario.\nYes, I had to work 7 day weeks for years on end but guess what? Now, if I wanna go fishing on a Tuesday, I can do it. If I only wanna work 20 hours on certain weeks, I can easily do it. If I stroll in 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late, it truly doesn’t matter either way. The only part that sucks is not having benefits. But I’ll take it for having only myself, my clients and my finances to answer to. \nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.", ">\n\n\nThe catch is, you need deep knowledge of your field, a true niche and the will to stick it out before day one…before your business plan, even. Businesses fail for those reasons before all else.\n\nThis is how I know I'd fail. I'd like to start my own company for the reasons you listed, but I know that ultimately I just cbf, and if I'm not willing to but in tons of hours then it's going to fall to shit.\nI also notice that the best companies tend to be created by people who have a real passion, and like you say, deep knowledge of what they are selling. I think it's very difficult to start a business on a whim. You have to have something you're passionate about already and take it commercial. Just trying to think of some idea on a whim is a recipe for disaster.", ">\n\nHaha yeah for sure…I wish there was a way to figure out the statistics for “on a whim” upstarts vs mega nerd upstarts. I guess there’s probably just no easy way to quantify that", ">\n\nMost people who say this and call themselves an 'entrepreneur' just come across as lazy to me. Because most of the time they have no clue what to do with their life, they have no ambition to get an education or any other job and just think getting their own business will make the cash flow for them somehow.", ">\n\nNo, I'm also not sure where you get that feeling from.", ">\n\nThere really is no reason to insult me by insinuating I cannot differentiate real life from social media or that i spend my time in weird places, all just because you have a different experience than me.", ">\n\nI always tell people who want to start their own business:\nBe prepared to not make any money for at least the first 2 or 3 years\nBe prepared to work 100 hrs a week\nNo matter what your business is, you have to be a great salesman on top of everything else. \nIf you arent going to do everything, you have to find people you can trust. And that's not easy, especially if you cant pay them top dollar.\n\nAfter all that, I tell them my experience in accounting/finance with business owners. Most of them set goals early in life. They knew they wanted to run their own business, meet and marry a nice attractive person, live in a nice house and raise a family.\nAnd for most of the guys who achieved all of those goals... they hate their lives. They just want one good night sleep. They just want their kids to \"clean their fucking rooms\". For guys,Their wives are no longer the 'young hot' girls they fell in love with. They are moms, spending all day with kids, and they have a lot to say about it.\nThe last thing these guys want to do is go home to a 'nagging' wife and noisy children that they cant relate to.\nOne of my bosses is 7 years younger than me and he looks 10 years older.\nBe careful what you wish for.", ">\n\nIt’s also not sustainable advice. Not everyone can be a business owner, there needs to be workers (unless you’re some expert automation engineer, but there’s very few who can do that and manage a business).", ">\n\nAnd there’s only so many products that people need or want to buy - “just sell a thing!” Isn’t a business plan, yet people act like it’s the magic formula for making gold appear out of thin air.", ">\n\nI sell my products online, I work whenever I want and no one tells me what to do, I don't need to wake up early, my income is stable. You just have to try", ">\n\nYou’re absolutely right. Give up NOW.", ">\n\nGiving this advice to 19/20 year olds is pretty trash. As someone who was just that age, you don't really have any connections or resources to get started. I can find this being a viable option if you've found a niche in a business after 10 years experience.", ">\n\nThere are two types of people. The owners and the employees. There are people who like to collect a check at the end of the month from their employer and there are others who prefer to be the ones writing that check. \nYes it's overrated and sometimes it's not glamourous, especially when you are starting.", ">\n\nWord", ">\n\nStarting your own business is a very reliable way to fail and be broke as fuck. If you look closely, most people who talk about \"being their own boss\" and \"starting their own business\" are people of questionable educational qualifications and dubious work ethic.", ">\n\nRich people's advice to get rich is for people to take on debt and pay more rent, quelle surprise!", ">\n\nI can tell you that being self employed for nearly 25 years (IT Consultant) has definitely been preferable to working for someone else. I took a 6 month Chief Admin job a few years back for a medical association and was glad to go back to work for myself.", ">\n\n\nIT Consultant\n\nquelle surprise" ]

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