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> I am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves. I have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. Secession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize." ]
> The minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point." ]
> Among other things.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over." ]
> I really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things." ]
> Just some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit." ]
> A multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry." ]
> Please let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be... Republicans. Charge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here." ]
> Funny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. But maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment." ]
> In my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value. I don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?" ]
> ok. Now let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?" ]
> Going for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. If you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra..." ]
> How is this not a terrorism charge?
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that." ]
> If your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article. “The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.” The goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?" ]
> The point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes." ]
> The proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s. I will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good. At the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism." ]
> For legal reference: ​ 18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility U.S. Code Whoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both. Considering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others. But they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO." ]
> Good.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served..." ]
> Wonder who they voted for...
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum." ]
> So conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for..." ]
> Brandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is..." ]
> I wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer." ]
> They really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6." ]
> When you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it." ]
> Good people on both sides
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs." ]
> Far right GQP strikes again
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides" ]
> Two people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again" ]
> Can't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?" ]
> Yes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards." ]
> Or as in this case, no investigation at all.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation." ]
> The DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and "borrowing" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all." ]
> Why aren't they getting terrorist charges?
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office." ]
> My guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?" ]
> I miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. Don’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican." ]
> I guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has...
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention." ]
> Thank GOD for our insistence to live with smartphones and the men and women of the FBI that have to filter through all of our bullshit just to hopefully be able to catch up to some dumb shit like this.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.", ">\n\nI guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has..." ]
> Ok Jimmy. Three cellphones were near the tower where the crime happened, maybe one of them posted about it on social... Jesus Jimmy these people are so stupid. They livestreamed it. Go get 'em. They're... at the Walmart on 7th ave.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.", ">\n\nI guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has...", ">\n\nThank GOD for our insistence to live with smartphones and the men and women of the FBI that have to filter through all of our bullshit just to hopefully be able to catch up to some dumb shit like this." ]
> We can catch these dummies but not the people that actually attacked the grid and did a ton of damage?
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.", ">\n\nI guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has...", ">\n\nThank GOD for our insistence to live with smartphones and the men and women of the FBI that have to filter through all of our bullshit just to hopefully be able to catch up to some dumb shit like this.", ">\n\nOk Jimmy. Three cellphones were near the tower where the crime happened, maybe one of them posted about it on social... Jesus Jimmy these people are so stupid. They livestreamed it. Go get 'em. They're... at the Walmart on 7th ave." ]
> It’s really hard to judge this, because the FBI does have a well-documented history of entrapping people and then claiming some glorious, heroic victory in the war on terror. I hope that’s not the case here, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find out a paid informant convinced them to go through with it and the FBI planned literally every detail.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.", ">\n\nI guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has...", ">\n\nThank GOD for our insistence to live with smartphones and the men and women of the FBI that have to filter through all of our bullshit just to hopefully be able to catch up to some dumb shit like this.", ">\n\nOk Jimmy. Three cellphones were near the tower where the crime happened, maybe one of them posted about it on social... Jesus Jimmy these people are so stupid. They livestreamed it. Go get 'em. They're... at the Walmart on 7th ave.", ">\n\nWe can catch these dummies but not the people that actually attacked the grid and did a ton of damage?" ]
> ehhhh, it seems the dude has previous history w explosives making threats and what have you so itll be a swift 2nd/3rd slap on the wrist.
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.", ">\n\nI guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has...", ">\n\nThank GOD for our insistence to live with smartphones and the men and women of the FBI that have to filter through all of our bullshit just to hopefully be able to catch up to some dumb shit like this.", ">\n\nOk Jimmy. Three cellphones were near the tower where the crime happened, maybe one of them posted about it on social... Jesus Jimmy these people are so stupid. They livestreamed it. Go get 'em. They're... at the Walmart on 7th ave.", ">\n\nWe can catch these dummies but not the people that actually attacked the grid and did a ton of damage?", ">\n\nIt’s really hard to judge this, because the FBI does have a well-documented history of entrapping people and then claiming some glorious, heroic victory in the war on terror. I hope that’s not the case here, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find out a paid informant convinced them to go through with it and the FBI planned literally every detail." ]
>
[ "The DOJ unveiled the charges on Monday and announced the arrest of two individuals, Sarah Beth Clendaniel of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell of Orlando, Florida. \n\nFlorida man strikes again!", ">\n\nFlorida man with 3 first names.", ">\n\n\nThe charges come as domestic violence experts have warned that attempts by extremist groups to attack power facilities are trending up.\n\nWTH is this article’s use of “domestic violence”… call it what it is DOMESTIC TERRORISM", ">\n\nCan't, that would hurt their fragile fee-fees.", ">\n\nGuess that’s why we all love Dark Brandon. Brandon calls out hypocritical fee-fees.", ">\n\n\nBefore allegedly conspiring to attack the Maryland power grid, authorities say he had plotted with his roommates in Florida to attack energy facilities there. That alleged plot was revealed during an investigation into the 2017 murder of two of Russell’s roommates by another roommate.\n\n\"Of course I know him. He's me.\"\nEdit: I just learned that the murders were in fact the work of a fourth roommate Devon Arthur. I guess the reader is left wondering if those murders were at all connected to the Russell's failed plot to bomb nuclear facilities and synagogues. In any case, I was surprised to learn that it takes four able-bodied, adult members of the master race to make rent.", ">\n\nThe meth in this story is implied. It's like the monster in the movie that you never actually see on the screen.", ">\n\n\"We're going to rescue America by cutting off power in the winter!\"", ">\n\nThey’re not trying to rescue America. \nThey actively want to incite a civil war that they feel they’ll win. Some even believe it’ll be a race war.", ">\n\nI am all for Texas ~~succeeding~~ seceding from America. We don't need them.\nedit: facepalm slop or autocorrect mistake on my part.\nI take full responsibility and apologize.", ">\n\nI am here and I am not - that is nothing but bloviating from a bunch of mentally impotent idiots that think might is right but have no idea that their actual friends most likely are liberal and not conservative like themselves.\nI have a lot of friends that don't realize I am not a conservative like them. Secession would be an absolute disaster that they don't think about. At the federal level alone, things lose funding, ALL our military bases and stationed troops, not to mention embedded federal resources and logistics. \nSecession is a non-starter and is only and will ever only be a right-wing talking point.", ">\n\nThe minute the Social Security checks dried up; game over.", ">\n\nAmong other things.", ">\n\nI really want them to try it because it would be such an epic failure. But then I think about all of the decent folk that are trapped there that want nothing to do with any of this bullshit.", ">\n\nJust some more right wing domestic terrorists copying what other right wing domestic terrorists have done recently. But hey, both sides are the same. No need to worry.", ">\n\nA multitude of identical coordinated isolated incidents. Nothing to see here.", ">\n\n\nPlease let it be antifa, please let it be antifa, please let it be...\n\nRepublicans.\nCharge these motherfuckers as terrorists. Enough with the kid gloves and special treatment.", ">\n\nFunny how this ends up in r/Politics, like we all just kinda acknowledge that this right-wing terrorism is here to stay as an ordinary feature of our landscape now. Like, it was politically driven, and the news of the charges is gonna be political, too, and they'll have GoFundMes gathering donations off right wing radio and OAN in no time. \nBut maybe it shouldn't be political? Like, can we talk about that?", ">\n\nIn my neighborhood some yahoos did this but it wasn't political. They were just stealing wire to buy meth. And though they knocked out power to thousands the wire had no salvage value.\nI don't know where you're going with this. People should apolitically knock out electricity distribution for scrap metal to sell to fund their meth habits?", ">\n\nok. \nNow let them go for the head of this damn extremist hydra...", ">\n\nGoing for the ‘heart’ might be a better word choice. \nIf you cut off a hydra’s head, three more grow in its place, and we don’t want that.", ">\n\nHow is this not a terrorism charge?", ">\n\nIf your suggesting the failure of this bill is the reason the individuals weren’t charged with some particular crime I’d note the following from your liked article.\n“The bill does not create new criminal offenses, new lists of designated domestic terrorist individuals or groups, or new investigative powers for law enforcement.”\nThe goal of the bill was tracking and resource allocation, not creating a new class of crimes.", ">\n\nThe point of the comment and cite was to demonstrate the ongoing resistance of the GOP to do anything to admit to and/or fight right-wing terrorism.", ">\n\nThe proposed bill was well thought out and well intended and I definitely agree with you on the GOP’s reasoning for opposing it. Domestic terrorism and extremism are serious issues, although as an old guy I recognize this isn’t anything new. Even this flavor we’re seeing now has ebbed and flowed since the early 80’s.\nI will say however I have very mixed feelings about passing any kind of expansive, far reaching, domestic terrorism legislation right now. I think it’s a good exercise to ask oneself what would a trump like administration do with such “domestic terrorism” laws or powers. Personally I think the answer is nothing good.\nAt the end of the day these two ding dongs are charged with very serious crimes, with penalties in line with the current seditious conspiracy prosecutions of the proud boys. The current laws are perfectly capable of addressing these actions IMHO.", ">\n\nFor legal reference:\n​\n\n18 U.S. Code § 1366 - Destruction of an energy facility \nU.S. Code \nWhoever knowingly and willfully damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in an amount that in fact exceeds or would if the attempted offense had been completed, or if the object of the conspiracy had been achieved, have exceeded $100,000, or damages or attempts or conspires to damage the property of an energy facility in any amount and causes or attempts or conspires to cause a significant interruption or impairment of a function of an energy facility, shall be punishable by a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 20 years, or both.\n\nConsidering that they were hoping to destroy the entire city and it was also racially motivated they should've be given the entire 20 years because they seem like an extreme danger to themselves and others.\nBut they'll probably get some MAGA judge who will give them a $1,500 fine and time served...", ">\n\nGood.....that's terrorism and if found guilty of the crime they deserve 10 years in Federal Prison minimum.", ">\n\nWonder who they voted for...", ">\n\nSo conspiring to destroy America's critical infrastructure for political goals is not terrorism in the US, but sitting in a treehouse in a forest is...", ">\n\nBrandon Clint Russell. One, two…three first names. Definitely serial killer.", ">\n\nI wonder if either one of them might be the individual seen planting bombs on 1/6.", ">\n\nThey really need to prosecute these guys to the fullest extent of the law. What these guys did will cost every American money. A couple of more of these and government and the public will want surveillance on all sub stations. There are hundreds of thousands of substations and the cost will be significant. You and I will pay for it.", ">\n\nWhen you’d rather have no electricity just to spite the libs.", ">\n\nGood people on both sides", ">\n\nFar right GQP strikes again", ">\n\nTwo people? Don’t you mean Republican neonazi domestic terrorists?", ">\n\nCan't find a Seditious Conspiracy that involved Hundreds of Republicans in state and federal office. Catches and charges two people thinking about shooting up a few transformer yards.", ">\n\nYes, that's how it works. Small straightforward crimes with fewer co-conspirators are much faster to investigate and prosecute. Massive unprecedented multi-state conspiracies involving hundreds of conspirators ranging from militia seditionists all the way up to a former POTUS take a much longer and far more wide-ranging investigation.", ">\n\nOr as in this case, no investigation at all.", ">\n\nThe DOJ's January 6 investigation is the largest, most wide-ranging, and most resource-intensive investigation in DOJ history, involving a massive team of investigators from DC and from every FBI field office across the country, and \"borrowing\" prosecutors from almost every state attorney office.", ">\n\nWhy aren't they getting terrorist charges?", ">\n\nMy guess it’s because they’re white and vote republican.", ">\n\nI miss the 70s80s. Sure, nuclear annihilation was on the table. L.A. smog was so bad you see it indoors. Lead gas was good for you car. But we were all in it together. Sorta. \nDon’t remember the power infrastructure being brought down by grumpy white power yahoos. Maybe I wasn’t paying attention.", ">\n\nI guess they weren't wealthy and didn't have the connections like Trump has...", ">\n\nThank GOD for our insistence to live with smartphones and the men and women of the FBI that have to filter through all of our bullshit just to hopefully be able to catch up to some dumb shit like this.", ">\n\nOk Jimmy. Three cellphones were near the tower where the crime happened, maybe one of them posted about it on social... Jesus Jimmy these people are so stupid. They livestreamed it. Go get 'em. They're... at the Walmart on 7th ave.", ">\n\nWe can catch these dummies but not the people that actually attacked the grid and did a ton of damage?", ">\n\nIt’s really hard to judge this, because the FBI does have a well-documented history of entrapping people and then claiming some glorious, heroic victory in the war on terror. I hope that’s not the case here, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find out a paid informant convinced them to go through with it and the FBI planned literally every detail.", ">\n\nehhhh, it seems the dude has previous history w explosives making threats and what have you so itll be a swift 2nd/3rd slap on the wrist." ]
On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. Cops lie so I agree with the critics.
[]
> Cops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics." ]
> I took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care." ]
> It wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders." ]
> These mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”." ]
> 55 in a 54
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway." ]
> Failure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54" ]
> so... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example." ]
> The funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?" ]
> Got pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say." ]
> I wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer." ]
> Well we got three main options 1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime 2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline 3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years." ]
> 2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind "more of the same" Biden. Also we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them "Rhinos".
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)" ]
> If Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\"." ]
> yes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party. IIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives" ]
> So Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden." ]
> oh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith. have a nice day then. it seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite. imagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination." ]
> That's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged." ]
> Bernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking." ]
> He wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world." ]
> The United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?" ]
> Let me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on." ]
> What would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now? You simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem. I don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them. Just like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?" ]
> What facts? You presented none. NO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP. Stop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on. I wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable Cop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you." ]
> There is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!! If you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! Is that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy" ]
> There is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!! It's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?" ]
> The shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means" ]
> They say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. For some reason, I don't believe that. Maybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible" ]
> If he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence." ]
> The bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. Sorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?" ]
> The problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them" ]
> Equally it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag." ]
> But then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. So who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault." ]
> It's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them. The body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?" ]
> There's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid." ]
> These weren't "atlanta cops", they were state troopers. Different organization.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age." ]
> No, you're assuming they were state troopers. The officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies. Not that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization." ]
> For the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers." ]
> There is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?" ]
> Depends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations." ]
> It's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team." ]
> I think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates." ]
> Cop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one" ]
> He was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force." ]
> The police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more." ]
> Police are an occupying army.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low." ]
> They really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really. Redcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army." ]
> HAH. Mate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system." ]
> Ok genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves." ]
> Why not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?" ]
> What is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras." ]
> Fascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group. Allowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them. See also: "Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves." To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest). See also: Take back the stolen vote. For more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, "Fuck them all to death." Don't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?" ]
> Having an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows." ]
> I can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this." ]
> "We can't release any videos to protect the integrity of the investigation." 🙄
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.", ">\n\nI can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite." ]
> At some point we need to acknowledge this is a paramilitary camp outside the scope of true law.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.", ">\n\nI can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite.", ">\n\n\"We can't release any videos to protect the integrity of the investigation.\" 🙄" ]
> Outside the scope of true law? I think you'll find it's very rare that cops are treated as outside the law. The laws just aren't here to protect you and I.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.", ">\n\nI can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite.", ">\n\n\"We can't release any videos to protect the integrity of the investigation.\" 🙄", ">\n\nAt some point we need to acknowledge this is a paramilitary camp outside the scope of true law." ]
> Huh? Cops get privileged treatment all the time. What are you saying?
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.", ">\n\nI can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite.", ">\n\n\"We can't release any videos to protect the integrity of the investigation.\" 🙄", ">\n\nAt some point we need to acknowledge this is a paramilitary camp outside the scope of true law.", ">\n\nOutside the scope of true law? I think you'll find it's very rare that cops are treated as outside the law. The laws just aren't here to protect you and I." ]
> That's the point that I'm making. Many atrocities committed by cops are completely legal because the law is designed to favour them.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.", ">\n\nI can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite.", ">\n\n\"We can't release any videos to protect the integrity of the investigation.\" 🙄", ">\n\nAt some point we need to acknowledge this is a paramilitary camp outside the scope of true law.", ">\n\nOutside the scope of true law? I think you'll find it's very rare that cops are treated as outside the law. The laws just aren't here to protect you and I.", ">\n\nHuh?\nCops get privileged treatment all the time. What are you saying?" ]
> The Holocaust was legal under German law. The Gulags were legal under Soviet law. The Residential Schools were legal under Canadian law. Turns out all it takes to do genocide is make it legal under the law for an appointed few (Gestapo, NKVD, etc.) to do said genocide. They get a free hand, the average citizen says "that's not right" but doesn't do anything because then they would be the victims too, and a few million die and it becomes another tragedy on the list.
[ "On Wednesday, Jan. 25, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that a special prosecutor will be assigned to review the case, but critics are calling for an independent investigation. \n\nCops lie so I agree with the critics.", ">\n\nCops are some of the least trustworthy people in the country. I wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when it comes to police shootings. They'll lie right to your face even when there's clear video evidence that they are lying. They know you know they are lying and still don't care.", ">\n\nI took a traffic ticket to court and watched the cop tell three lies to the judge. Over a traffic ticket. So just imagine when it comes to assaults and murders.", ">\n\nIt wasn’t really about the ticket, it was about his ego and “authority”.", ">\n\nThese mofo's tried to give me a ticket for speeding in a school zone on the I-5 highway.", ">\n\n55 in a 54", ">\n\nFailure to signal a lane change. On a one-way, one lane road… This actually happened to me, I went before the judge, and the judge backed the officer. I’ve always thought this was an hilarious example.", ">\n\nso... which lane did you change from and into if its a single lane one-way road?", ">\n\nThe funny thing is, I was actually following the officer. He pretty much ran a stop sign to merge onto the one-way street. And there was also a cop behind me. So the cop in front of me turned his lights on and I really didn’t know what was going on, but he’s the one that got me I don’t even know what to say.", ">\n\nGot pulled over by a cop I recognized as a drop out in HS... he asked me for my license I asked him for his HS diploma... NOT the smartest thing I said. Not sure why I said it but I told him I was joking. He told me he went into the military and I asked when he went AWOL... good times... PS I got a ticket and fought it in court and he didn't show!!!! I want SOOOO bad to have put in court record that the cop did not graduate HS and I question his ability to read the speedometer.", ">\n\nI wonder how bad it'll be in 20 years.", ">\n\nWell we got three main options\n1.) the GOP gets full control and the police go on to be the arm of an authoritarian regime\n2.) conservative dems remain in power and the problem slowly gets worse over time… let’s be optimistic and say that the Supreme Court hasn’t eliminated due process in this timeline\n3.) we pull a competent, progressive miracle out of thin air (and also discover unicorns)", ">\n\n2020 showed 3 would never happen. Burnie and other actually progressive candidates were gaining traction and the Democratic Party was quick to fall in line behind \"more of the same\" Biden.\nAlso we have unicorns, they are just fat and gray and we call them \"Rhinos\".", ">\n\nIf Bernie can only get 35-40% of the vote in a one on one and broke 50% once (Vermont)...how strong truely are progressives", ">\n\nyes, this is the point they were making. Progressives can't get ahead because dems fall in line behind the party.\nIIRC, Bernie was the front runner until the rest of them dropped from the primary and endorsed Biden.", ">\n\nSo Sanders was taking advantage of a fractured field and when the moderates and establishment wised up and consolidated (which is smart politics), he got wrecked. Seriously, if Sanders couldn't get close to Biden one one one, he didn't deserve the nomination.", ">\n\noh, i see, you have no intent to argue in good faith.\nhave a nice day then.\nit seems your point was actually 'bernie couldn't beat the establishment', which is sadly true. but the way you framed it made it seem like he was unfavorable, when it was the opposite.\nimagine how different things would have gone if those endorsements went to him instead of biden. the game was rigged.", ">\n\nThat's literally politics. It's not arguing in bad faith either. Bernie couldn't beat Biden 1 on 1 showing that voters follow more moderate thinking.", ">\n\nBernie is the more moderate candidate though, at least when compared to the world.", ">\n\nHe wasn't running in the rest of the world now was he?", ">\n\nThe United States is now at the point where we are openly executing climate activists and labeling the ones who live as domestic terrorists for committing the unspeakable crime of wanting to have a planet to live on.", ">\n\nLet me guess you're one of those lying cops that can't get away with shit as easily now, huh? So you defend a bunch of overpaid scared pieces of shit every chance you get, huh?", ">\n\nWhat would make me think that? The fact that murdering cops are actually being punished now?\nYou simply ignoring that fact because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't my problem.\nI don't defend murdering cops, I defend cops that shoot someone whose shooting at them.\nJust like I'd defend you if you happen to shoot a guy whose shooting at you.", ">\n\nWhat facts? You presented none. \nNO ONE WAS SHOOTING AT THEM. UNTIL PROOF COMES OUT OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP.\nStop defending cops when you literally have no idea what's going on.\nI wouldn't want your dumb ass defending me, that's only going to make matters worse. It's people like you that are going to trigger the inevitable\nCop bounties we will start seeing. The blind faith in a racists institution is not a good look, piggy", ">\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\nIf you don't believe that simply because this is a case of cops shooting someone... and you hate cops... then you're a conspiracist who would have to believe that a cop grabbed the guy's gun... shot another cop with it... and planted the gun back on the guy who owned the gun... all for the purpose of being able to shoot the guy afterward!! \nIs that what you think happened? Are you a mentally deficient conspiracist who makes illogical shit up in their mind simply because you hate cops?", ">\n\n\nThere is a police officer that was shot and the gun that did it was registered to the criminal. That is a fact!!\n\nIt's not a fact. It's a claim made by the police. Don't use the word if you don't understand what it means", ">\n\nThe shooting wasn't caught on body cam..how the fuck is that possible", ">\n\nThey say that the guy shot first and the killing was justified. \nFor some reason, I don't believe that.\nMaybe it's all the times I've seen cops make this claim only to be proven wrong with video evidence.", ">\n\nIf he shot first, they should be able to find his bullets and make some ballistics evidence?", ">\n\nThe bullet was in the cops body, and the gun used was already confirmed to have been bought by the activist. \nSorry, even if your family insists you are a ‘pacifist’, getting shot by the police is justified if you try and kill them", ">\n\nThe problem is, it's the police saying the activist shot first, with the other activists saying that's not true. And from what I understand none of the cops had their body cameras turned on, which is a huge red flag.", ">\n\nEqually it's unsurprising the anti-police protesters say the police are at fault.", ">\n\nBut then why did the cops not have their body cameras on? Again, cops are known for lying ALOT, while the activists, which are environmental activists, have no motive to lie since they aren’t going to jail for murder. \nSo who has the more motive to lie? The cops who fucked up or the mostly unarmed protesters?", ">\n\nIt's not that the cameras were not turned on. They did not have cameras at all; the whole agency does not have cameras yet and is in the process of procuring them.\nThe body camera footage being reviewed is from officers from other agencies who were in the area but not involved in the raid.", ">\n\nThere's zero excuse for Atlanta cops to not have cameras in this day and age.", ">\n\nThese weren't \"atlanta cops\", they were state troopers. Different organization.", ">\n\nNo, you're assuming they were state troopers. \nThe officer who was shot was a state trooper, that doesn't mean the other officers who shot the protestor were also state troopers. It was a multi-agency operation that resulted in this situation, and the Atlanta police was one of those agencies.\nNot that this changes anything regarding my point. The state of Georgia has zero excuse to not have bodycams for all their officers.", ">\n\nFor the sake of accuracy, can we just start calling it Murderer City?", ">\n\nThere is a massive difference between environmental protestors and white supremacists shooting at power substations.", ">\n\nDepends on whether this “protester” shot at the cops first. If he did then he’s no different. Just on a different team.", ">\n\nIt's weird reading this, though I know it's a common shortcut of moral judgement. What a crappy way to live life and view the world, you can easily lump... Let's say.... Environmental activists blowing up a logging truck in the Amazon with Nazis in WW2, into the same camp. Sure, it's a bit of an extreme example but that's the slippery slope this mentality creates.", ">\n\nI think murder or attempted murder has to be a fairly solid line. There may be instances of murder where actions are justified but environmental activism is not one", ">\n\nCop City isn't even built yet and it's already transforming the police into a more aggressive militant force.", ">\n\nHe was HIT 13 times. The number of shots fired at him was probably triple that or more.", ">\n\nThe police are not your friends. They are not here to serve or protect you. They exist solely to preserve the interests of the rich and powerful and to keep the rest of us in line, violently if need be. They are the lowest of the low.", ">\n\nPolice are an occupying army.", ">\n\nThey really are. Pretty sure no quartering of troops is in the bill of rights, not that people's rights matter anymore really.\nRedcoats acted just like modern police do today. Murders/assaults of colonists with little recourse to the British legal system.", ">\n\nHAH.\nMate, go look up what the Redcoats did in the Boer Wars, or the Mau-Mau Uprising, or the Sepoy Mutiny. The American Revolution was handled with kid gloves.", ">\n\nOk genuine question, have police shootings/brutality become more prevalent or are we just reporting on them more now since George Floyd ?", ">\n\nWhy not both? Republicans have shown open support for fascism and everyone is getting easier access to cameras.", ">\n\nWhat is fascism and how is a certain group showing support for it?", ">\n\nFascism is an idiology of false nostalgia, radical ultra-nationalism, and generally, a seeking to purify and refine a centralized in group to be more and more homogeneous, while discarding or destroying the newer and newer layers of out group.\nAllowing radical, violent ultra-nationalists to continue to proliferate, and inciting and riling them into action to become your base qualifies as supporting them.\nSee also: \"Mexico isn't sending us it's best, it's sending us rapists and thieves.\" To justify racial purity in the USA (because border concerns at the Mexican boarder were never a jobs issue, that was just a convinient euphemism, and saying otherwise is either foolish or dishonest).\nSee also: Take back the stolen vote.\nFor more information, I highly recommend taking a critical look at the policies and politics underlying the republican party in the years since Barack Obama took office. Things degrade and shift rapidly towards an attitude that Southpark described well with it's parody, \"Fuck them all to death.\"\nDon't get me wrong, neither party has the interests of the poor common person at heart nearly so much as they should, but one has been undermining the fundamental rules of society to undo a hundred years of civil rights battles, and it shows.", ">\n\nHaving an interaction with police? Record, to the cloud, every damn time. This is the only way we will expose the corruption and defeat our lazy leaders that don't want to deal with this.", ">\n\nI can't tell you how many times cops has said their actions were due to someone being hostile towards them or resisting arrest, only for body cam or security cam footage to show the exact opposite.", ">\n\n\"We can't release any videos to protect the integrity of the investigation.\" 🙄", ">\n\nAt some point we need to acknowledge this is a paramilitary camp outside the scope of true law.", ">\n\nOutside the scope of true law? I think you'll find it's very rare that cops are treated as outside the law. The laws just aren't here to protect you and I.", ">\n\nHuh?\nCops get privileged treatment all the time. What are you saying?", ">\n\nThat's the point that I'm making. Many atrocities committed by cops are completely legal because the law is designed to favour them." ]