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> The UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea" ]
> 4th Amendment makes that problematic.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while." ]
> Vehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic." ]
> Absolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine." ]
> and this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over." ]
> There should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death" ]
> I totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad." ]
> Is it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath." ]
> It's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?" ]
> He was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s" ]
> I am so sorry.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings" ]
> It got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry." ]
> They really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach." ]
> Gonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse." ]
> Well texas already has safe storage laws.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally" ]
> At some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. No guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. Guns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. No hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). Clean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. A year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. Texas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws." ]
> First a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does." ]
> American version of the natural selection at its best…
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too." ]
> It is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed. This is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…" ]
> What really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: "My child is smarter than that."/"My child wouldn't do that."/"I KNOW what my kid is up to.". Do these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about. It baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree." ]
> What kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid." ]
> They're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?" ]
> No, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality." ]
> south dallas i am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood." ]
> We've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them. Fortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents" ]
> It’s thing thing should make everyone happy
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money." ]
> Just another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy" ]
> The problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane." ]
> Just another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s" ]
> Always has been. It's just more visible now
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore" ]
> America needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now" ]
> And if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s" ]
> I am really glad you put the /s ​ I may need to take a break from Reddit.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s" ]
> Classic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit." ]
> When Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome. Road rage? Grab a gun. Going to Walmart? Grab a gun. Feel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now" ]
> Well, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun." ]
> Every single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe." ]
> Where I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here." ]
> Did she yell "Get off my grandpa's lawn!" first?
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades." ]
> “One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” Wait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?" ]
> Well, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it." ]
> If the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s" ]
> Well, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14." ]
> More of these stories everyday. But don’t blame the guns!!!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there." ]
> Damn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!" ]
> Is it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? Do I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s" ]
> It's Gunday in America ... these things happen.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do." ]
> You get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen." ]
> Guns protecting us from so much tyranny.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all" ]
> “If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny." ]
> Very sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker" ]
> Well akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives." ]
> Did the child's mom leave the gun out or something?
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!" ]
> It's going to be stolen. Most of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?" ]
> I'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes." ]
> Absolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid." ]
> It’s the guns. Guns are the issue.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities" ]
> Nonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue." ]
> I'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!" ]
> But supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that" ]
> Gun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. Now the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. The gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. But hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!" ]
> Nothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)" ]
> Nothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked." ]
> But guns aren't an issue!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom." ]
> You need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. The parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!" ]
> Texas: "Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?"
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids." ]
> I’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"" ]
> You clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?" ]
> Way too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! The fucking moron state…
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far" ]
> Why was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…" ]
> ‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. - Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. I’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?" ]
> I was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating." ]
> i knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot." ]
> Only an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much" ]
> good population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!" ]
> sounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country" ]
> Girls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief" ]
> it definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns." ]
> Nope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up." ]
> Nope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. You saying "I have lived in other countries and did not see violence" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places ("Africa") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem." ]
> bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. I wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. Those firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding "conflict" or "terrorism" I'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries." ]
> Other countries is even more vague….
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other." ]
> Haha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague…." ]
> And they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs" ]
> As a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity. No shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ" ]
> Only thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns. /s
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be." ]
> Everyday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s" ]
> It’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War" ]
> The article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle" ]
> It’s Texas, let them shoot
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge." ]
> Just fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot" ]
> More gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right." ]
> It’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon. Imagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place. So while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun. As long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility. The change is social, and it starts at home.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change." ]
> If only the 11 year old had a gun
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home." ]
> If I had a nickel…arm the 11 year olds, problem solved!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home.", ">\n\nIf only the 11 year old had a gun" ]
> A good 14 year old kid with a gun could have stopped her. Arm school aged children!
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home.", ">\n\nIf only the 11 year old had a gun", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel…arm the 11 year olds, problem solved!" ]
> Article isnt saying where she retrieved the gun from. Did her parents really keep it that unsecured? What the fuck.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home.", ">\n\nIf only the 11 year old had a gun", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel…arm the 11 year olds, problem solved!", ">\n\nA good 14 year old kid with a gun could have stopped her. Arm school aged children!" ]
> Parents probably taught her how to open the gun safe and how to use the gun "in case of burglers" or something.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home.", ">\n\nIf only the 11 year old had a gun", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel…arm the 11 year olds, problem solved!", ">\n\nA good 14 year old kid with a gun could have stopped her. Arm school aged children!", ">\n\nArticle isnt saying where she retrieved the gun from. Did her parents really keep it that unsecured? What the fuck." ]
> The very quiet, rural area I live in recently had a shooting after a drug deal went bad. The shooter turned out to be a 14 year old boy. This country, man. I don’t even know how to approach fixing it.
[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home.", ">\n\nIf only the 11 year old had a gun", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel…arm the 11 year olds, problem solved!", ">\n\nA good 14 year old kid with a gun could have stopped her. Arm school aged children!", ">\n\nArticle isnt saying where she retrieved the gun from. Did her parents really keep it that unsecured? What the fuck.", ">\n\nParents probably taught her how to open the gun safe and how to use the gun \"in case of burglers\" or something." ]
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[ "I was surprised by the headline since my first thought was that it was a 14-year-old playing with a handgun and it was unintentional, but nope: \n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”", ">\n\nI’m not sure if my reading comprehension is off, but it read to me like Girl A attempted to shoot Girl B due to unknown fight, but Girl A missed and hit Girl B’s brother instead? \nDamn.", ">\n\nThat’s literally the only way to interpret this though?…", ">\n\nYeah, I was a bit high. Sometimes I read things wrong when I smoke. Usually it’s a funny misread, though, not a damn sad one.", ">\n\nI think the Texas response to this is that boy needed a gun as well, also his sister. More guns = more protection", ">\n\nOnly a good 11 year old with a gun can stop a bad 14 year old with a gun. /s", ">\n\nThe recent stories of kids intentionally shooting at people has actually started to wear on me... this is incredibly sad.", ">\n\nIf it makes you feel any better, protests continue against drag queen story hours at libraries. That’s the real threat to America's future. \n/s\n(I really wish the “/s” wasn’t necessary, but here we are ….)", ">\n\nDon’t forget laptop penis photos! Truly the most important legislative agenda ever conceived", ">\n\nTo be fair to the republican party(despite the fact they do not deserve it), there's nothing else for the GOP to do. Their policies are unpopular, and they have no actual power. May as well feed their base the nonsense they want to eat.", ">\n\nSo what you're saying is, it's gonna get even stupider?", ">\n\nThere’s no bottom.", ">\n\nA 14-year-old girl was charged with murder Monday following the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy who was caught in gunfire as two girls fought, according to Dallas police.\nOn Sunday afternoon at about 2 p.m., police were called to a report of a shooting at an apartment complex in south Dallas.\nDuring the investigation into the shooting, police determined a fight was going on between two girls in the parking lot of the complex.\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,” police said in a statement.\nThe 11-year-old boy was transported to the hospital where he died from his injuries, police said.\nThe suspect initially ran from the location but was later taken into custody and charged, and she remains at the Henry Wade Juvenile Justice Center, police said.\nA weapon was recovered during the investigation, the agency added.\nPolice are not releasing the names of those involved in the incident due to their ages.\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.", ">\n\n\nArrest and lock up the owner of the gun too this is ridiculous.\n\nYou're assuming it wasn't stolen, its possible it wasn't but its also possible it was.", ">\n\nAren’t the rules that you’re supposed to keep it safe, if a 14 yo can steal it, I’m not sure it was safe :(", ">\n\nUnless it's a heist level event it wasn't safe.", ">\n\nThere are a lot of bad gun \"safes\" out on the market.\nLook up Lock Picking Lawyers videos on them", ">\n\nWhich is something a responsible gun owner will research before purchasing firearms.", ">\n\nalmost like unenforceable rules for killing machines is a silly idea", ">\n\nThe UK does it just fine. You can still own guns, go shooting for sport and hunt just fine. You just get checked up on every once in a while.", ">\n\n4th Amendment makes that problematic.", ">\n\nVehicle inspections are allowed. Inspection a gun safe set up should be fine.", ">\n\nAbsolutely horrific. Both kids had barely lived a life at all - the boy is dead and the girl's life is over.", ">\n\nand this sister who probably blames herself for her brothers death", ">\n\nThere should be parents in jail over this. That 14 year old almost certainly stole the gun from her mom or dad.", ">\n\nI totally agree with you, but this is Texas. I wouldn't hold my breath.", ">\n\nIs it me or a lot of these shootings are happening in the south where all the lax gun laws are?", ">\n\nIt's an AMERICAN RIGHT to not properly secure loaded guns from minors! /s", ">\n\nHe was a teammate of my son's . They played on the DeSoto Colts . Such a tragic and unnecessary death. Broke my heart explaining to my son what happened this morning. We gotta stop the shootings", ">\n\nI am so sorry.", ">\n\nIt got a male bystander and not the girl who she was trying to shoot. Tragic. The gun should never have been in the kid's reach.", ">\n\nThey really need to start charging the parents. If you want to have a gun in your home, then you need to make sure it is secure. There are many different options from trigger locks to biometric lockboxes. There is no excuse.", ">\n\nGonna need gun control laws for that, good luck doing that in Texas or nationally", ">\n\nWell texas already has safe storage laws.", ">\n\nAt some point we need to realize the Swedes have it right. \nNo guns for self defense, only for an actual reason like hunting or hobby shooting (both of which have different regulations in terms of what firearms you may have) with proof. \nGuns and ammo stored separately, both in locked safe vaults. \nNo hidden guns, no unsupervised guns, no leaving loaded guns anywhere (even locked up). \nClean record: no felonies, no DV, no DUI, etc. \nA year-long, intensive program that ensures you can shoot and have the knowledge to responsibly carry. \nTexas doesn’t have jack shit compared to that. None of the US does.", ">\n\nFirst a teacher got intentionally shot by a child and now it’s kid on kid gun violence. What is happening? Lock the parents up too.", ">\n\nAmerican version of the natural selection at its best…", ">\n\nIt is very easy for many children to obtain guns if a parent owns them. Many diehard gun owners have one or some stashed in places in the event there is a home invasion. Any snooping child could stumble upon one at some point. It will likely not have a lock of any kind on it as that defeats the purpose of quick, usable access if needed.\nThis is why youth gun education and general discipline is extremely important if you are going to store a firearm in your home. Even then you still have to accept that an accidental or unintentional use of that firearm could occur. As the owner you should be held responsible to some degree.", ">\n\nWhat really amazes me is how many parents dismiss any concerns with: \"My child is smarter than that.\"/\"My child wouldn't do that.\"/\"I KNOW what my kid is up to.\".\nDo these people not remember being kids themselves? All the stupid shit they did. All the things their parents never knew about.\nIt baffles me how easily supposed adults forget what it was like being a kid.", ">\n\nWhat kind of stupid fucking fight are two dumbass girls having where it's so important that people need to die?", ">\n\nThey're stupid kids in a stupid fight. Stands to reason one of them would opt to resolve it in a stupid manner. Not to excuse the act, but that's the reality.", ">\n\nNo, this is highly exceptional. Almost every fight between American teens is done with hands and feet, not guns / knives / etc. These are bad kids from a bad neighborhood.", ">\n\n\nsouth dallas\n\ni am sure the gun was purchased legally by responsible parents", ">\n\nWe've opened the Pandora's box of mass gun ownership and it probably can not be closed. A lot of people are suffering because of all of the unexpected tragedies often because guns find themselves in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.\nFortunately gun manufacturers and arms dealers have made and continue to make a ton of money.", ">\n\nIt’s thing thing should make everyone happy", ">\n\nJust another literal child that got their hand on a gun. Watch as we forget about it by tomorrow and it happens again. Insane.", ">\n\nThe problem here is that the 2 other kids didn’t have guns to protect themselves /s", ">\n\nJust another Tuesday in the United States. Shit isn’t even shocking anymore", ">\n\nAlways has been. It's just more visible now", ">\n\nAmerica needs more guns in order to prevent such tragedies. For example if the 11 year old had a gun he could have defended himself better /s", ">\n\nAnd if there were no guns in America, she could have just as easily killed him accidentally with another weapon… like throwing a rock or a stick or a knife at the girl and missing and hitting the boy. /s", ">\n\nI am really glad you put the /s \n​\nI may need to take a break from Reddit.", ">\n\nClassic USA. Watch your kids, we’re not even close to the end of this shit happening either. It’s become a matter of where the next shooting will be and whose kid now", ">\n\nWhen Americans believe everything can be resolved with guns and more guns, this is the outcome.\nRoad rage? Grab a gun.\nGoing to Walmart? Grab a gun.\nFeel unsafe at school? Teachers grab a gun.", ">\n\nWell, it’s not like the cops with guns are gonna keep the school safe.", ">\n\nEvery single day in America we are faced with the reality that people cannot be trusted with guns. This kid should not have had access to a gun. Their parents obviously could not be trusted with it, but they got one because its easier to get a gun than a driver's license here.", ">\n\nWhere I grew up there was a girl who shot 2 boys with a shotgun who were in her front yard. She said she was just playing around. It marked the town for decades.", ">\n\nDid she yell \"Get off my grandpa's lawn!\" first?", ">\n\n\n“One juvenile suspect retrieved a handgun and shot in the direction of the female she was fighting; however, the shot struck a male juvenile bystander,”\n\nWait, wait, don't tell me. Their dumbass parent(s) left a loaded weapon in a place a 14-year-old could grab it.", ">\n\nWell, she was a good girl and would NEVER use it because she is responsible and mature, so it was ok for them to leave a loaded gun around. /s", ">\n\nIf the kid is black, TX will have no hesitation putting her on death row, even if she's only 14.", ">\n\nWell, with names like Vashunte and De'evan, and it being South Dallas... the data points are there.", ">\n\nMore of these stories everyday.\nBut don’t blame the guns!!!", ">\n\nDamn, we need good guys with guns to shoot a 14 year old girl. There were clearly not enough good guys around. /s", ">\n\nIs it common to charge 14-yr-olds with murder? Is this charge basically saying she is being charged as an adult or is that still different? \nDo I think she is responsible? Yes. Do I think she is solely responsible? No. I also don’t believe people her age make many forward thinking decisions and are prone to doing a lot of stupid shit that we wish we can say they know better than to do. Often the same stupid shit adults do.", ">\n\nIt's Gunday in America ... these things happen.", ">\n\nYou get a gun, and you get a gun, guns for all", ">\n\nGuns protecting us from so much tyranny.", ">\n\n“If only we had armed 11 year olds with the ability to protect themselves” — probably some Texas lawmaker", ">\n\nVery sad that the girl was able to get a pistol in the first place, but 2nd amendment trumps innocent lives.", ">\n\nWell akshually, if it wasn't a gun then she would have accidentally missed the other girl with her fist and punched that kid to death anyway. There is no solution!!!", ">\n\nDid the child's mom leave the gun out or something?", ">\n\nIt's going to be stolen. \nMost of the guns used in crimes like this are stolen. Frequently from vehicles. Less frequently from homes.", ">\n\nI'm not a gun owner, but would I be right in assuming leaving a loaded firearm in a car is wildly irresponsible? Even if you always lock your car, that seems stupid.", ">\n\nAbsolutely correct and this matter has been a subject of public education campaigns by police agencies in the affected communities", ">\n\nIt’s the guns. Guns are the issue.", ">\n\nNonsense, we need more 11yo with guns to defend themselves from the 14yo with guns!", ">\n\nI'm fucking numb to this. God i hate that", ">\n\nBut supposedly guns save more childrens' lives than they take. Right? RIGHT?!?!!", ">\n\nGun were a fucking pyramid scheme style scam that used scare-mongering, one person has a gun, so more people have to get a gun to defend themselves from them, then more people have to get guns to defend themselves from those people, so on and so forth. \nNow the US is at the point where there are so many guns that the fearmongering has basically become reality, since now you DO need a gun because everyone else and their dog has one. \nThe gun sellers made sure to artificially created and/or sustain their own market to make money, not caring about all the people that would get hurt, just like the oil sellers, cigarette sellers, etc. \nBut hey, at least the rich people got richer, so it was all worth it in the end. :)", ">\n\nNothing new, Americans being Americans with their guns. 14 year old went and got her gun during a dispute. Yeah, way to go America! Guns! FUCKING FREEDOM! Unless you're a victim that got killed by gun toting freedom merican, get fucked.", ">\n\nNothing to see here. Just Texas being dumb again. Ban abortion but children shooting others or children being hurt are their god given freedom.", ">\n\nBut guns aren't an issue!", ">\n\nYou need to charge the parents. Not only did they fail at securing their guns, they were also completely clueless that they were brawling at the apartment complex. \nThe parents of the 11 year old victim and the other girl should also be charged with negligence. They've failed at parenting and should not be allowed to have anymore kids.", ">\n\nTexas: \"Why did the other child not have a gun to defend himself?\"", ">\n\nI’m not sure hope much longer these stories remain news-worthy in a country that actively encourages people to own guns. We don’t see many stories of “man who drank a 60 oz Big Gulp everyday suffering from obesity” for the same reasons. How can anyone be surprised?", ">\n\nYou clearly need to arm all minors to prevent this. More guns seems to be a very successful tactic so far", ">\n\nWay too go Texas! Arm the rest of those kids! Good toddlers with guns stop bad toddlers! \nThe fucking moron state…", ">\n\nWhy was the mother there, but the fighting and bullshit still going on? It reads like the mother was watching her own daughter fight a 14 year old, and brought her 11-year old son to watch, too. If that is the case, how is the mother not catching charges in all of this?", ">\n\n‘Mexico! Why would you want to go THERE?!? It’s way too dangerous for vacation- all those gang murders! ! Is what an acquaintance mentioned when I said I’d always wanted to see Cabo. \n- Susan, it’s far more likely I take my last breath getting capped buying celery at Publix, not going fast enough above the speed limit for some dude behind me on 400, dropping my kids off at school, or, I don’t know- doing ANYTHING in the US of A. \nI’d be seriously questioning visiting the states for vacation if I didn’t live here. It’s fucking terrifying and seems to be accelerating.", ">\n\nI was living in Mexico when the Batman theater shootings happened in Colorado. People were asking how I could feel safe in MX. I said here I can go to the movie theater without fear I'll be shot. Same with the grocery store, a mall, schools, etc. Here if I accidentally cut a driver off, I wave as an apology, and they smile and say it's OK and drive on whereas in the US I might get shot.", ">\n\ni knew it was texas before the end of OPs post title. they love their guns too much", ">\n\nOnly an 11yr old with a gun can stop a 14 yrs old with a gun. Children must be able to carry a gun. It's the # killer of children. We gotta do what's right!", ">\n\ngood population control, after all you can't use or get birth control in your backwards country", ">\n\nsounds like a well-regulated militia to me chief", ">\n\nGirls aren't allowed to be uncovered or go to school in that part of the world, so why would they let them have guns.", ">\n\nit definitely happens in those countries; bystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc. It just doesn't make the news here, partly because those countries have been host to active military conflicts and sectarian violence for many years. Not to detract from how fucked up the situation is here, because it is VERY fucked up.", ">\n\nNope. You are wrong. I have lived in many other countries in Africa, Europe and the Middle East. This is a uniquely American problem.", ">\n\nNope, I am not. I agree that the scale of violence and the amount of shootings per capita in the US is wayyyyy off the hook and a massive problem. I am not disputing that at all. \nYou saying \"I have lived in other countries and did not see violence\" means literally nothing. I'm glad you had positive experiences in those vague places (\"Africa\") but your experience is anecdotal. Some of the highest murder rates on earth are in African countries.", ">\n\n\nbystanders being shot, quarrels ending in gunfire, lethal violence etc.\n\nI wasn't speaking about gun deaths exclusively, I was talking about individually enacted violence resulting in death. and I didn't say anything about rates of gun ownership. \nThose firearm rates also do not take into account innocent people that have been shot/killed as a result of sectarian or civil violence, which is often counted in data sets regarding \"conflict\" or \"terrorism\" \nI'm not defending America, at all. I was just speaking to the now deleted comment saying this TYPE of violence is a uniquely American problem. I have also lived in other countries, and have seen this type of violence first hand. America doesn't have a monopoly on people doing evil things to each other.", ">\n\nOther countries is even more vague….", ">\n\nHaha fair. I've lived in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Burma and Ethiopia working for various NGOs", ">\n\nAnd they say guns don’t kill people I beg to differ", ">\n\nAs a general rule, someone who says that can safely be ignored. It's kind of a litmus test for stupidity.\nNo shit, guns are really fucking good at killing things. Almost like that's the entire reason they came to be.", ">\n\nOnly thing that could have stopped this from happening is more guns.\n/s", ">\n\nEveryday i feel like we are getting closer to living in a scene from The Forever War", ">\n\nIt’s a cold day when America turns into a Chris Pratt vehicle", ">\n\nThe article says that the boy was a nice boy, but it doesn't say much about his sister. The shooter might plead self defense and plea bargain it down to a lesser charge.", ">\n\nIt’s Texas, let them shoot", ">\n\nJust fucking repeal the Second Amendment already. American gun owners have collectively proven they aren’t responsible enough to enjoy such a sacred right.", ">\n\nMore gun violence and nothing will be done about it. Kids killing kids apparently isn’t a good enough reason for change.", ">\n\nIt’s tricky because the clear, obvious, and immediate social solution is to require parents pass mental health checks and child raising programs that are regularly checked up on in order to have children. This violates a lot of rights and has ethical implications though so its unlikely to happen anytime soon.\nImagine being raised to think getting in a street fight and killing someone with a gun is an acceptable response. No one in Texas thinks this is acceptable behavior, no one in the US thinks this is acceptable behavior, and it doesn’t happen because people think its okay — it happens because legally and socially we’re not supposed to interfere with how others raise their children, and there is a low barrier to entry to having a child - lower than adopting a pet from a shelter. Any deranged lunatic, extremist, criminal, sociopath, uneducated, or irresponsible person is free to have a child and raise them however they like. In fact, the more irresponsible they are the more likely they will have a child in the first place.\nSo while some want to make this about the gun, it would have been a knife or a baseball bat or a car or poison or something else. Punish the parents who didn’t raise their child right and who didn’t lock their gun up properly, not the guy next door who always locks his up and has experiences of being robbed and attacked and needed a gun.\nAs long as there are negligent, irresponsible, misguided, ignorant, criminal parents, there will be situations like these with the kids. We as a society need to decide what is more important — letting anyone raise a child any way they want, or personal responsibility.\nThe change is social, and it starts at home.", ">\n\nIf only the 11 year old had a gun", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel…arm the 11 year olds, problem solved!", ">\n\nA good 14 year old kid with a gun could have stopped her. Arm school aged children!", ">\n\nArticle isnt saying where she retrieved the gun from. Did her parents really keep it that unsecured? What the fuck.", ">\n\nParents probably taught her how to open the gun safe and how to use the gun \"in case of burglers\" or something.", ">\n\nThe very quiet, rural area I live in recently had a shooting after a drug deal went bad. The shooter turned out to be a 14 year old boy.\nThis country, man. I don’t even know how to approach fixing it." ]