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"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic"
] |
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Good to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters. | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds"
] |
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They’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters."
] |
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The more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected. | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians"
] |
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Not sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected."
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Quite the problematic comment | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years"
] |
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why is that? | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment"
] |
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Who was talking about terrorists? | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?"
] |
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Well for Israel those are terrorists who kill civilians, for Palestinians those are freedom fighters
define Palestinian suffering | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?",
">\n\nWho was talking about terrorists?"
] |
>
There is no such thing as benign conservative government | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?",
">\n\nWho was talking about terrorists?",
">\n\nWell for Israel those are terrorists who kill civilians, for Palestinians those are freedom fighters \ndefine Palestinian suffering"
] |
>
Well wasn’t there an election ? What did these guys do ? | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?",
">\n\nWho was talking about terrorists?",
">\n\nWell for Israel those are terrorists who kill civilians, for Palestinians those are freedom fighters \ndefine Palestinian suffering",
">\n\nThere is no such thing as benign conservative government"
] |
>
They voted, and they lost the elections (left bloc). So yea an article about 100 protestors doesn't really reflect the consensus in the streets 🤷🏻 | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?",
">\n\nWho was talking about terrorists?",
">\n\nWell for Israel those are terrorists who kill civilians, for Palestinians those are freedom fighters \ndefine Palestinian suffering",
">\n\nThere is no such thing as benign conservative government",
">\n\nWell wasn’t there an election ? What did these guys do ?"
] |
>
Idiots, fools. | [
"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?",
">\n\nWho was talking about terrorists?",
">\n\nWell for Israel those are terrorists who kill civilians, for Palestinians those are freedom fighters \ndefine Palestinian suffering",
">\n\nThere is no such thing as benign conservative government",
">\n\nWell wasn’t there an election ? What did these guys do ?",
">\n\nThey voted, and they lost the elections (left bloc). So yea an article about 100 protestors doesn't really reflect the consensus in the streets 🤷🏻"
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"So why is the opposition in Israel so fucking bad?\nThey can't get a candidate to dehtrone Bibi.",
">\n\nNetanyahu has methodically weakened Israeli politics for 2 decades. Many good people left politics due to him.",
">\n\nAlso, let's give it to him, he keeps it on track. I mean Likud, Shas, Yehudat haTora - they are around since forever, and their objectives - whatever they are - didn't change. As to the centrist parties (which is our hope to form a coalition) - I can't even keep track of what they are called, let alone of what their position is.",
">\n\nHe's very very skilled at what he does. He's in a whole different ballgame as he's ruthless with literally no visible ideal other than straying in power. Other politicians in the so called left center are absolute jokes with egos and no carisma. And this is exactly the way he wanted it",
">\n\nWhich is why center-left must unite, form a coherent message people can understand and earn trust. As opposed to Avoda-Meretz fiasco or Raam's \"let me talk to my (real criminal) field commanders before I consider a vote\", and here-and-there Gantz - who under different circumstances might've been a very good figurehead as far as security is concerned.",
">\n\nSorry but their all unimaginative, egotistical clowns with no possible coherence in their aims. Sadly that are too silly to set aside differences.\nIf I were a liberal Israeli I would demand their heads roll and new party leaders selected. Israel needs new blood to counter the old blood. Lapid is just a sad pale Netanyahu clone in the making. He's quite cringy",
">\n\nAs an Israeli liberal , the sense of hopelessness is insane now , Literally everyone started planning their escape from this place . I fear that people are so tired and desperate they dont want to fight anymore.....\n\nand Netanyahu is doing everything he can to strenghten those negative feelings , He tries to dismantle the courts , He gave religious zealots positions from which they can affect the school curriculum and poision the heads of our kids . His ministers are cancelling every reform and change the last government did , even things that are undoubtedly positive just for the sake of eliminating every shred of evidence the last government happened . His mouthpieces are working full time trying to create internal conflicts inside the opposition . I honestly just want to leave but im a student in university and dont have the money anyway .",
">\n\nGood job taking these protests out of context. \nThey’re protesting against the Right Wing Governments proposed judicial reforms. Palestinians have little if anything to do with it.",
">\n\nLike, yes, but also the right wing in Israel is reporting it was about Arabs because someone was waving a Palestinian flag at the protests. So the right is using that fact to delegitamize them.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's necessarily a false flag but it does hurt the popular perception of the protests. Many Israelis consider Netanyahu to be a crook with dictatorial aspirations but do not believe any concessions should be made to the Palestinians. Previous government has proven that any coalition capable of ousting Netanyahu can't agree on any other crucial issue including national security and foreign policy. The conservative-to-radical rightwing parties can provide such a consensus and have the numbers for a solid majority if they join up with Bibi's moderate right party but they require a lot of concessions in return, from supporting contested settlements to letting the religious orthodoxy control important facets of everyday life. Any potential for a coalition that can unite the moderates and exclude the radicals from both flanks has been thoroughly undermined by Bibi in person.",
">\n\nJews are great people. \nNetenyahu's government is a human right disaster.",
">\n\nThey haven't done anything yet...",
">\n\nConsidering Netanyahu has been in power previously, people are allowed to make judgement calls on his prior actions and assume that a new term would be more of the same.",
">\n\nNo one assumes it will be the same. His current actions hint otherwise",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nTel Aviv - Thousands of Israelis protested on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new government, regarded as the most right-wing in Israeli history, an AFP correspondent said.\nProtesters brandished signs with slogans including \"Democracy in danger\" and \"Together against fascism and apartheid\" in the coastal city of Tel Aviv.\nSome waved Israeli and rainbow flags while others held a large banner reading \"Crime minister\" - a slogan widely used by Israelis during regular demonstrations against Netanyahu in past years.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Israeli^#1 includes^#2 protested^#3 Netanyahu^#4 against^#5",
">\n\nIt's good that Israeli citizens are protesting against the new government. Civil society will need to hold firm to keep Netanyahu's cronies from taking over institutions.",
">\n\nI would like to point out this headline is a bit misleading. The vast majority of the protesters were about the government's attempt to undermine the balance of powers, nothing you do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nWhat balance of powers? The Bagatz members weren't elected by anyone, literally a group of people electing their successors, with a very clear agenda. The reforms are very well needed. There's absolutely no reason a group of people can do whatever they want. \nIf that seems legitimate to you, then why do we even go to elections? After all it's that tiny group of people that decides what laws to pass",
">\n\nI hope THIS gets some media attention",
">\n\nIt wont really, Because if the Israel-US/British relationship, the main stream media will always be pro-Israel. Netanhyu was more closer to the US and UK.",
">\n\nI think it's alright to be pro-Israel in the sense of supporting a constitutional democracy in the Levant.\nNetinyahu and the extremists are a threat to Israel just the same as Hamas's rockets.\nSupport Israel, Netinyahu.",
">\n\nExcellent. 👌🏻",
">\n\nWait, when did Netanyahu come back into power? I’m completely confused here.",
">\n\nA little bit ago. A month maybe?",
">\n\nThe government was sworn-in a week and a half ago.",
">\n\nAbout time the younger generation stepped up!",
">\n\nProblem is, unlike in other countries, the younger generation is more right wing.",
">\n\nIn other countries security issues aren't a big deal like in Israel, and the differences in right/left are mostly economically/socially differences, so there's not much to compare. Good thing that the younger generation wants to actually live in a safe place.",
">\n\nThis is very encouraging. Israel is an important theatre in the global fight against fascism; progress there represents enormous hope for progress elsewhere. \nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership.",
">\n\n\nIt is interesting that Israel's arch enemy Iran is simultaneously undergoing a popular revolt against fascistic leadership. \n\nMay both protest movements succeed",
">\n\nAmen",
">\n\nI wonder how long it'll take the British press to brand them as antisemitic",
">\n\n5 seconds",
">\n\nGood to see Israeli’s standing up for their Palestinian brothers and sisters.",
">\n\nThey’re protesting the Government’s proposed judicial reforms. Nothing to do with the Palestinians",
">\n\nThe more the Israeli government creeps right, the more Palestinians will suffer. It’s of course all connected.",
">\n\nNot sure what's Palestinian suffering to you but the previous government who was considered the farthest to the left in history killed more terrorists in Judea and Samaria than any Netanyahu gov in the last 15 years",
">\n\nQuite the problematic comment",
">\n\nwhy is that?",
">\n\nWho was talking about terrorists?",
">\n\nWell for Israel those are terrorists who kill civilians, for Palestinians those are freedom fighters \ndefine Palestinian suffering",
">\n\nThere is no such thing as benign conservative government",
">\n\nWell wasn’t there an election ? What did these guys do ?",
">\n\nThey voted, and they lost the elections (left bloc). So yea an article about 100 protestors doesn't really reflect the consensus in the streets 🤷🏻",
">\n\nIdiots, fools."
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When i was in high school I didn't really like reading at all and my English teacher told me that I would like Rule of the Bone. She was right! Also really cool because a lot of it was based in my local area.
RIP | [] |
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"When i was in high school I didn't really like reading at all and my English teacher told me that I would like Rule of the Bone. She was right! Also really cool because a lot of it was based in my local area.\nRIP"
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FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the "next step" to take after the Brazillian election.
Bolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:
Unnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.
Trump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil. | [] |
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You’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again….. | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil."
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Ah yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against "crime". | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again….."
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Why not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol. | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\"."
] |
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Trump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October
With zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.
Magas- "There was fraud!"..
Rational People- "Ok, prove it"
Magas - crickets
CyberNinjas - louder crickets | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol."
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So loud, they must be mega-crickets.
Mega MAGA crickets. | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets"
] |
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Of course because they are all getting arrested and will be either executed or in prison for 30 years. Trump is: “I don’t know them, hell it’s not even my country.” | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets",
">\n\nSo loud, they must be mega-crickets. \nMega MAGA crickets."
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Let's be real here, do you think Trump could even find Brazil on a map? | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets",
">\n\nSo loud, they must be mega-crickets. \nMega MAGA crickets.",
">\n\nOf course because they are all getting arrested and will be either executed or in prison for 30 years. Trump is: “I don’t know them, hell it’s not even my country.”"
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Now that’s funny! | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets",
">\n\nSo loud, they must be mega-crickets. \nMega MAGA crickets.",
">\n\nOf course because they are all getting arrested and will be either executed or in prison for 30 years. Trump is: “I don’t know them, hell it’s not even my country.”",
">\n\nLet's be real here, do you think Trump could even find Brazil on a map?"
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Honestly though, I know he used to chum it up with all the other authoritarians but I seriously doubt he gives world events much thought between all the golf and scamming. | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets",
">\n\nSo loud, they must be mega-crickets. \nMega MAGA crickets.",
">\n\nOf course because they are all getting arrested and will be either executed or in prison for 30 years. Trump is: “I don’t know them, hell it’s not even my country.”",
">\n\nLet's be real here, do you think Trump could even find Brazil on a map?",
">\n\nNow that’s funny!"
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Surprised he didn’t yap his flap yet | [
"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets",
">\n\nSo loud, they must be mega-crickets. \nMega MAGA crickets.",
">\n\nOf course because they are all getting arrested and will be either executed or in prison for 30 years. Trump is: “I don’t know them, hell it’s not even my country.”",
">\n\nLet's be real here, do you think Trump could even find Brazil on a map?",
">\n\nNow that’s funny!",
">\n\nHonestly though, I know he used to chum it up with all the other authoritarians but I seriously doubt he gives world events much thought between all the golf and scamming."
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"FYI, Bannon and Stephen Miller were advising Bolsonaro on the \"next step\" to take after the Brazillian election.\nBolsonaro is also currently in Florida, and is reported to be spending time at Mar a Lago:\n\nUnnamed sources close to Mr. Bolsonaro told the Brazilian newspaper UOL that the outgoing president would spend “a month or two” resting in a house at Mr. Trump’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago resort.\n\nTrump and his allies' hands are all over this coup in Brazil.",
">\n\nYou’d think with the harsh penalties they’ve all copped following Jan 6 they wouldn’t of tried it again…..",
">\n\nAh yes the super harsh penalties of grifting millions of dollars from Americans, not having to pay taxes, being allowed to sell off our nations secrets, being considered for house speakership, running for president against \"crime\".",
">\n\nWhy not? He was silent during the seditious attack he made on the US Capitol.",
">\n\n\nTrump ally’s supporters have been protesting election since October\n\nWith zero evidence. Just like in the US Elections. It's all bullshit fascism from these assholes.\nMagas- \"There was fraud!\".. \nRational People- \"Ok, prove it\"\nMagas - crickets\nCyberNinjas - louder crickets",
">\n\nSo loud, they must be mega-crickets. \nMega MAGA crickets.",
">\n\nOf course because they are all getting arrested and will be either executed or in prison for 30 years. Trump is: “I don’t know them, hell it’s not even my country.”",
">\n\nLet's be real here, do you think Trump could even find Brazil on a map?",
">\n\nNow that’s funny!",
">\n\nHonestly though, I know he used to chum it up with all the other authoritarians but I seriously doubt he gives world events much thought between all the golf and scamming.",
">\n\nSurprised he didn’t yap his flap yet"
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Bit fucking late for that innit? | [] |
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Better late than never | [
"Bit fucking late for that innit?"
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Well, they had to find out who won first, didn't they? | [
"Bit fucking late for that innit?",
">\n\nBetter late than never"
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Imagine messing up 2 coups and genocide | [
"Bit fucking late for that innit?",
">\n\nBetter late than never",
">\n\nWell, they had to find out who won first, didn't they?"
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Wow, Reuters are apparently pro insurrection as far as the US goes since they called it a demonstration in their article when it was a planned coup attempt. Guess we know Reuters loyalty must be to Trump and Russia. | [
"Bit fucking late for that innit?",
">\n\nBetter late than never",
">\n\nWell, they had to find out who won first, didn't they?",
">\n\nImagine messing up 2 coups and genocide"
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The Russian favoratism has been a known thing for a while. | [
"Bit fucking late for that innit?",
">\n\nBetter late than never",
">\n\nWell, they had to find out who won first, didn't they?",
">\n\nImagine messing up 2 coups and genocide",
">\n\nWow, Reuters are apparently pro insurrection as far as the US goes since they called it a demonstration in their article when it was a planned coup attempt. Guess we know Reuters loyalty must be to Trump and Russia."
] |
> | [
"Bit fucking late for that innit?",
">\n\nBetter late than never",
">\n\nWell, they had to find out who won first, didn't they?",
">\n\nImagine messing up 2 coups and genocide",
">\n\nWow, Reuters are apparently pro insurrection as far as the US goes since they called it a demonstration in their article when it was a planned coup attempt. Guess we know Reuters loyalty must be to Trump and Russia.",
">\n\nThe Russian favoratism has been a known thing for a while."
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Republicans are lying?
The deuce you say! | [] |
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El Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration
Or as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’. | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!"
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Nothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate. | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’."
] |
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democratic party research has shown that most democratic party constituents value "civility" and so generally speaking, democratic politicians are overly polite even in situations and circumstances where just a *little* more anger or frustration would be justified | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’.",
">\n\nNothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate."
] |
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Immigration is whack even if you're part of the majority class. I got back from an overseas flight and had to stand in line for 2 hours so some powertripping jackass could ask me what my major was in college, what I do for a living and interrogate me why I'm coming back from two weeks abroad. Keeping our country safe, my ass. I had drug sniffing dogs walk by me. I had my luggage x-rayed. I had my body x-rayed. And that still wasn't enough to satisfy my government? All of our immigration policy is unnecessarily invasive and pointless.
But the right will whine about vaccine passports, lol, a thing which never existed and will never exist. They'll say our border security just isn't tough enough. Need more arbitrary rules. Party of freedom, my ass. | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’.",
">\n\nNothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate.",
">\n\ndemocratic party research has shown that most democratic party constituents value \"civility\" and so generally speaking, democratic politicians are overly polite even in situations and circumstances where just a *little* more anger or frustration would be justified"
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They are stunts. | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’.",
">\n\nNothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate.",
">\n\ndemocratic party research has shown that most democratic party constituents value \"civility\" and so generally speaking, democratic politicians are overly polite even in situations and circumstances where just a *little* more anger or frustration would be justified",
">\n\nImmigration is whack even if you're part of the majority class. I got back from an overseas flight and had to stand in line for 2 hours so some powertripping jackass could ask me what my major was in college, what I do for a living and interrogate me why I'm coming back from two weeks abroad. Keeping our country safe, my ass. I had drug sniffing dogs walk by me. I had my luggage x-rayed. I had my body x-rayed. And that still wasn't enough to satisfy my government? All of our immigration policy is unnecessarily invasive and pointless.\nBut the right will whine about vaccine passports, lol, a thing which never existed and will never exist. They'll say our border security just isn't tough enough. Need more arbitrary rules. Party of freedom, my ass."
] |
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Republicans have gimmicks and lies ? Ya don’t say | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’.",
">\n\nNothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate.",
">\n\ndemocratic party research has shown that most democratic party constituents value \"civility\" and so generally speaking, democratic politicians are overly polite even in situations and circumstances where just a *little* more anger or frustration would be justified",
">\n\nImmigration is whack even if you're part of the majority class. I got back from an overseas flight and had to stand in line for 2 hours so some powertripping jackass could ask me what my major was in college, what I do for a living and interrogate me why I'm coming back from two weeks abroad. Keeping our country safe, my ass. I had drug sniffing dogs walk by me. I had my luggage x-rayed. I had my body x-rayed. And that still wasn't enough to satisfy my government? All of our immigration policy is unnecessarily invasive and pointless.\nBut the right will whine about vaccine passports, lol, a thing which never existed and will never exist. They'll say our border security just isn't tough enough. Need more arbitrary rules. Party of freedom, my ass.",
">\n\nThey are stunts."
] |
>
Stunts, gimmicks and lies are their platform. Not just on immigration, for heaven’s sake.
well that being domestic terrorists, apparently. | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’.",
">\n\nNothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate.",
">\n\ndemocratic party research has shown that most democratic party constituents value \"civility\" and so generally speaking, democratic politicians are overly polite even in situations and circumstances where just a *little* more anger or frustration would be justified",
">\n\nImmigration is whack even if you're part of the majority class. I got back from an overseas flight and had to stand in line for 2 hours so some powertripping jackass could ask me what my major was in college, what I do for a living and interrogate me why I'm coming back from two weeks abroad. Keeping our country safe, my ass. I had drug sniffing dogs walk by me. I had my luggage x-rayed. I had my body x-rayed. And that still wasn't enough to satisfy my government? All of our immigration policy is unnecessarily invasive and pointless.\nBut the right will whine about vaccine passports, lol, a thing which never existed and will never exist. They'll say our border security just isn't tough enough. Need more arbitrary rules. Party of freedom, my ass.",
">\n\nThey are stunts.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gimmicks and lies ? Ya don’t say"
] |
> | [
"Republicans are lying?\nThe deuce you say!",
">\n\n\nEl Paso GOP for ‘stunts, gimmicks and lies’ on immigration \n\nOr as we call it “every day ending in ‘y’.",
">\n\nNothing like a headline using the word BLAST for clickbait. Maybe just Dems state facts about Republican stunts and lies would be more accurate.",
">\n\ndemocratic party research has shown that most democratic party constituents value \"civility\" and so generally speaking, democratic politicians are overly polite even in situations and circumstances where just a *little* more anger or frustration would be justified",
">\n\nImmigration is whack even if you're part of the majority class. I got back from an overseas flight and had to stand in line for 2 hours so some powertripping jackass could ask me what my major was in college, what I do for a living and interrogate me why I'm coming back from two weeks abroad. Keeping our country safe, my ass. I had drug sniffing dogs walk by me. I had my luggage x-rayed. I had my body x-rayed. And that still wasn't enough to satisfy my government? All of our immigration policy is unnecessarily invasive and pointless.\nBut the right will whine about vaccine passports, lol, a thing which never existed and will never exist. They'll say our border security just isn't tough enough. Need more arbitrary rules. Party of freedom, my ass.",
">\n\nThey are stunts.",
">\n\nRepublicans have gimmicks and lies ? Ya don’t say",
">\n\nStunts, gimmicks and lies are their platform. Not just on immigration, for heaven’s sake.\nwell that being domestic terrorists, apparently."
] |
Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime | [] |
>
Like all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime"
] |
>
It seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look? | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation."
] |
>
Op seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?"
] |
>
I've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time."
] |
>
definitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow."
] |
>
The eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired."
] |
>
My girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh
Of course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares? | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive."
] |
>
If it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?"
] |
>
If you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that? | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day."
] |
>
What if I wanna look sleep deprived? | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?"
] |
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It looks like you had a brawl last night. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?"
] |
>
Often times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night."
] |
>
In some cases. I agree with you. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well"
] |
>
Ugh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better.
We like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.
Your opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.
Ugh. Just...go away. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you."
] |
>
Take it easy. This isn’t an anti-makeup post, and I’m not trying to give advice. Obviously people are gonna wear whatever they like, that’s all that matters, not the preferences of strangers like me.
I’m just sharing an opinion on a sub made for sharing opinions to see if few or many people think the same. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you.",
">\n\nUgh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better. \nWe like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.\nYour opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.\nUgh. Just...go away."
] |
>
I stand by my response.
Side note: telling a woman to take it easy makes you sound condescending and sexist. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you.",
">\n\nUgh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better. \nWe like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.\nYour opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.\nUgh. Just...go away.",
">\n\nTake it easy. This isn’t an anti-makeup post, and I’m not trying to give advice. Obviously people are gonna wear whatever they like, that’s all that matters, not the preferences of strangers like me. \nI’m just sharing an opinion on a sub made for sharing opinions to see if few or many people think the same."
] |
>
You ran out of arguments and started calling sexism? Bet. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you.",
">\n\nUgh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better. \nWe like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.\nYour opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.\nUgh. Just...go away.",
">\n\nTake it easy. This isn’t an anti-makeup post, and I’m not trying to give advice. Obviously people are gonna wear whatever they like, that’s all that matters, not the preferences of strangers like me. \nI’m just sharing an opinion on a sub made for sharing opinions to see if few or many people think the same.",
">\n\nI stand by my response.\nSide note: telling a woman to take it easy makes you sound condescending and sexist."
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I think it makes them look like zombies. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you.",
">\n\nUgh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better. \nWe like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.\nYour opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.\nUgh. Just...go away.",
">\n\nTake it easy. This isn’t an anti-makeup post, and I’m not trying to give advice. Obviously people are gonna wear whatever they like, that’s all that matters, not the preferences of strangers like me. \nI’m just sharing an opinion on a sub made for sharing opinions to see if few or many people think the same.",
">\n\nI stand by my response.\nSide note: telling a woman to take it easy makes you sound condescending and sexist.",
">\n\nYou ran out of arguments and started calling sexism? Bet."
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I mean, unless you're dating them I don't see why it should matter to you.
Unless they are dressing up specifically for you/looking to attract your attention it really isn't your business how much makeup a person does or doesn't wear.
All this tells you is that from a superficial standpoint, you'll likely prefer date women who rock the au natural look when it comes to makeup.
But how a total stranger does their makeup really isn't your business unless they are working for you and representing your business, or if you are actually dating them and care enough about their makeup to say what you've said in this post. Otherwise, it really doesn't matter if you do or don't like a stranger's makeup. God knows I wouldn't change my makeup just because some random dude I don't know told me he doesn't like it. | [
"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you.",
">\n\nUgh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better. \nWe like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.\nYour opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.\nUgh. Just...go away.",
">\n\nTake it easy. This isn’t an anti-makeup post, and I’m not trying to give advice. Obviously people are gonna wear whatever they like, that’s all that matters, not the preferences of strangers like me. \nI’m just sharing an opinion on a sub made for sharing opinions to see if few or many people think the same.",
">\n\nI stand by my response.\nSide note: telling a woman to take it easy makes you sound condescending and sexist.",
">\n\nYou ran out of arguments and started calling sexism? Bet.",
">\n\nI think it makes them look like zombies."
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"Eyeliner and eyeshadow brings out people's eyes more, you should try it sometime",
">\n\nLike all make-up, eye shadow works in moderation.",
">\n\nIt seems like you're only talking about dark looks like a heavy smokey eye for an event. What about an everyday look?",
">\n\nOp seems to be a dude, if he sees an everyday look he most likely thinks the woman isn't wearing any makeup. Happens to me all the time.",
">\n\nI've had that happen. I can kinda see where he's coming from with bad raccoon eye moments. I'm curious to what he thinks about just a pop of color or say Korean style eyeshadow.",
">\n\ndefinitely better if it’s a vibrant color. Also for sure it can be subtle enough that you don’t even realize they have makeup on. But I don’t see the appeal of making your eyelids darker. Even if done well to me it makes them look tired.",
">\n\nThe eyeshadow I wear is very light to practically skin colored. The point is that it brings out the eyes, draws slight attention to them, and gives the illusion that they are slightly bigger. Also, makeup provides slight contrast to your features which is essentially what a photo filter does. Contrast is attractive.",
">\n\nMy girlfriend does pretty good eyeshadow, but eyeshadow can definitely look bad if you don’t know how to do it. Overdoing is even worse tbh\nOf course, girls won’t and don’t have to care about what you and I think. If it makes her feel pretty, then who cares?",
">\n\nIf it makes someone feel better to wear eyeshadow, then that’s good for them. But I do find that the average person doesn’t spend much time or effort on their everyday eyeshadow, so it rarely looks good. Personally, I’m either going for a very precise eyeshadow look that compliments and enhances the shape of my eyes and my coloring, or none at all. I can’t be one of those people that just smudges one color all over their eyelid and calls it a day.",
">\n\nIf you don’t mind me asking, how often do you end up wearing eyeshadow? Like most days? or rarer than that?",
">\n\nWhat if I wanna look sleep deprived?",
">\n\nIt looks like you had a brawl last night.",
">\n\nOften times those natural eyelids you think you’re seeing have a light coloured eye shadow, it’s just blended well",
">\n\nIn some cases. I agree with you.",
">\n\nUgh. If a woman is wearing eyeshadow, one can safely assume she thinks it makes her look better. \nWe like makeup. It makes us feel pretty. We dont need any more reasons to feel unattractive.\nYour opinion is petty. Its annoying, and we dont care what you think of our makeup choices.\nUgh. Just...go away.",
">\n\nTake it easy. This isn’t an anti-makeup post, and I’m not trying to give advice. Obviously people are gonna wear whatever they like, that’s all that matters, not the preferences of strangers like me. \nI’m just sharing an opinion on a sub made for sharing opinions to see if few or many people think the same.",
">\n\nI stand by my response.\nSide note: telling a woman to take it easy makes you sound condescending and sexist.",
">\n\nYou ran out of arguments and started calling sexism? Bet.",
">\n\nI think it makes them look like zombies.",
">\n\nI mean, unless you're dating them I don't see why it should matter to you.\nUnless they are dressing up specifically for you/looking to attract your attention it really isn't your business how much makeup a person does or doesn't wear.\nAll this tells you is that from a superficial standpoint, you'll likely prefer date women who rock the au natural look when it comes to makeup.\nBut how a total stranger does their makeup really isn't your business unless they are working for you and representing your business, or if you are actually dating them and care enough about their makeup to say what you've said in this post. Otherwise, it really doesn't matter if you do or don't like a stranger's makeup. God knows I wouldn't change my makeup just because some random dude I don't know told me he doesn't like it."
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McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years. | [] |
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With that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years."
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rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like
Only a Republican | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever."
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I think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican"
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No, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more."
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It would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster"
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It doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time."
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it can still be used to filibuster and waste time. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect."
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Sort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.
In reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.
Also there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time."
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“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...
He seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing."
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He’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February."
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I think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum."
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"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen."
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Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been…
You’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch
He made you kiss his ass
You’re speakership will barely last
MTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch
So Welcome, To the machine… | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built."
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The scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…"
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All they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education."
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I wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are."
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which lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months."
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I give it about 44 days | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy."
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The 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days"
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I get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns."
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I'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort."
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I doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH."
] |
>
I think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.
At some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.
At which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say "Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....".
And Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.
If Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way."
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Forehead and friends..
I laughed at that one. Thank you! | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity."
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I think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is "when." McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!"
] |
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The guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves??
Think about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could."
] |
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If McCarthy was actually smart, he’d have created a coalition government rather than Paul Ryan-ing himself by selling his soul to a handful of nihilistic extremists.
Further, if he had an ounce of testicular fortitude, now that he’s speaker, he would immediately say, “F- you to all 20 of my haters, the rules are not changing”
To bad (for Kevin) that McCarthy is a spineless toad with potato salad for brains. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could.",
">\n\nThe guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves?? \nThink about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker."
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Republicans have spent decades convincing their base that compromise is weakness. We saw a ton of Republicans get primaried and replaced since 2010 because they were willing to compromise and work with Dems on common sense things like funding the Government and helping senior citizens. McCarthy is stuck in a situation where unless he gets the HFC on board, he cannot reach across the aisle for help, because the Republican base will eat him alive. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could.",
">\n\nThe guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves?? \nThink about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker.",
">\n\nIf McCarthy was actually smart, he’d have created a coalition government rather than Paul Ryan-ing himself by selling his soul to a handful of nihilistic extremists. \nFurther, if he had an ounce of testicular fortitude, now that he’s speaker, he would immediately say, “F- you to all 20 of my haters, the rules are not changing”\nTo bad (for Kevin) that McCarthy is a spineless toad with potato salad for brains."
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McCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership and gave dems the majority. All they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could.",
">\n\nThe guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves?? \nThink about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker.",
">\n\nIf McCarthy was actually smart, he’d have created a coalition government rather than Paul Ryan-ing himself by selling his soul to a handful of nihilistic extremists. \nFurther, if he had an ounce of testicular fortitude, now that he’s speaker, he would immediately say, “F- you to all 20 of my haters, the rules are not changing”\nTo bad (for Kevin) that McCarthy is a spineless toad with potato salad for brains.",
">\n\nRepublicans have spent decades convincing their base that compromise is weakness. We saw a ton of Republicans get primaried and replaced since 2010 because they were willing to compromise and work with Dems on common sense things like funding the Government and helping senior citizens. McCarthy is stuck in a situation where unless he gets the HFC on board, he cannot reach across the aisle for help, because the Republican base will eat him alive."
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McCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership
Yes.
and gave dems the majority.
No.
Nothing that was done here increases the power of the Democratic party. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could.",
">\n\nThe guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves?? \nThink about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker.",
">\n\nIf McCarthy was actually smart, he’d have created a coalition government rather than Paul Ryan-ing himself by selling his soul to a handful of nihilistic extremists. \nFurther, if he had an ounce of testicular fortitude, now that he’s speaker, he would immediately say, “F- you to all 20 of my haters, the rules are not changing”\nTo bad (for Kevin) that McCarthy is a spineless toad with potato salad for brains.",
">\n\nRepublicans have spent decades convincing their base that compromise is weakness. We saw a ton of Republicans get primaried and replaced since 2010 because they were willing to compromise and work with Dems on common sense things like funding the Government and helping senior citizens. McCarthy is stuck in a situation where unless he gets the HFC on board, he cannot reach across the aisle for help, because the Republican base will eat him alive.",
">\n\nMcCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership and gave dems the majority. All they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are."
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In the next HOR elections the only political ads they need to show is this the dysfunction. Swing districts in NY and Cali will flip blue. | [
"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could.",
">\n\nThe guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves?? \nThink about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker.",
">\n\nIf McCarthy was actually smart, he’d have created a coalition government rather than Paul Ryan-ing himself by selling his soul to a handful of nihilistic extremists. \nFurther, if he had an ounce of testicular fortitude, now that he’s speaker, he would immediately say, “F- you to all 20 of my haters, the rules are not changing”\nTo bad (for Kevin) that McCarthy is a spineless toad with potato salad for brains.",
">\n\nRepublicans have spent decades convincing their base that compromise is weakness. We saw a ton of Republicans get primaried and replaced since 2010 because they were willing to compromise and work with Dems on common sense things like funding the Government and helping senior citizens. McCarthy is stuck in a situation where unless he gets the HFC on board, he cannot reach across the aisle for help, because the Republican base will eat him alive.",
">\n\nMcCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership and gave dems the majority. All they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\n\nMcCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership\n\nYes.\n\nand gave dems the majority. \n\nNo.\nNothing that was done here increases the power of the Democratic party."
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Ahh... if you mean handing the next Congress to the Democratic party, I can see why some would believe that.
Unfortunately, I am not convinced the US electorate will be so motivated by this. There has been robust evidence before this that nobody desiring functional governance should every vote for Republican representatives.
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"McCarthy is the weakest speaker in 100 years.",
">\n\nWith that rule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like, he might be the weakest speaker ever.",
">\n\n\nrule that let's anyone recall him whenever they like\n\nOnly a Republican",
">\n\nI think a democrat could too, but it would have the opposite effect of making republicans support him more.",
">\n\nNo, I think the new rule is that a sole member of the majority party can call for an ouster",
">\n\nIt would be insane to allow the minority party to trigger a recall at any number of representatives. It would happen all the time.",
">\n\nIt doesn't trigger a recall, it triggers a vote of the house. And as long as the Republicans have the majority it would have no effect.",
">\n\nit can still be used to filibuster and waste time.",
">\n\nSort of. The speaker could simply call a voice vote, the motion would fail and whoever forwarded the motion would get chastised. It would take 5 minutes, basically procedural. And you can only use your privilege once in a session to force your motion to be heard.\nIn reality there have almost always been rules likes this in Congress, they're what eventually led to Boehner stepping down, but unlike the speaker vote they can't really stop or delay the action of the house in any real way. And if so many members were willing to go through that little game that it actually interfered with house business then there'd be no point in filibustering because they've literally decided as a body not to conduct business.\nAlso there are a hundred other procedural rules that a member of Congress can use to delay the proceedings that have nothing to do with this rule. I think they're still using Roberts rules. A member can use privilege to force a vote on any motion. Gaetz could literally move to adjourn five minutes after session is opened, there'd be a voice vote, he'd get laughed at, then everyone would get on with the next thing.",
">\n\n\n“I’m not convinced we can go the entire Congress without having it. But I believe that if that’s used, I believe that, right now, the overwhelming majority… of Republicans realize that Kevin McCarthy needs a chance to govern, and we’re gonna give him a chance,” Comer said...\n\nHe seems very optimistic there. I look for the first one before the end of February.",
">\n\nHe’ll be Speaker until the Debt Ceiling and Government Spending Bills need to be brought up for a vote later this year. He’ll then be removed and the House will not be able to vote on either of those bills; exactly what the Free-dumb Caucus wants. The lunatics run the asylum.",
">\n\nI think the freedom caucus may end up shooting themselves in the foot in the end with this rule change. Nothing is stopping the more moderate republican from replacing the speaker and working with the dems during the debt ceiling crisis that is going to happen.",
">\n\nWelcome to the machine Kevin. The machine you built.",
">\n\nWelcome my son\nWelcome to the machine\nWhere have you been?\nIt's alright we know where you've been…\nYou’ve been to Lord Feltersnatch \nHe made you kiss his ass\nYou’re speakership will barely last\nMTG will swallow you with her nasty snatch\nSo Welcome, To the machine…",
">\n\nThe scariest most accurate song ever written, yet it was only meant for poor people with no education.",
">\n\nAll they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\nI wonder if Vegas has odds on how long until McCarthy faces the first motion he vacate the Speakership? I'd be surprised if he makes it to 2 months.",
">\n\nwhich lasts longer, a head of lettuce or McCarthy.",
">\n\nI give it about 44 days",
">\n\nThe 118th Congress is going to be a complete circus from start to finish. But without all the interesting acts... just clowns and more clowns.",
">\n\nI get a little sense of panic every time the Republicans announce one of their disastrous bills they’re going to pass, before I remember there’s no way it will pass the Senate. There’s still the debt ceiling and budget to worry about, but the Senate holding the line gives me some comfort.",
">\n\nI'd be surprised if this doesn't happen weekly. These people are emotional and it only takes one. Remember how Trump threw people under the bus the first time they diverged from his opinion? That's what's going to happen here. The minute McCarthy does something that doesn't sit right with the red hatters and we'll be back to voting 15 times for a new SOTH.",
">\n\nI doubt there will be enough support to allow one person to call a motion to vacate. If there is though, I think weekly calls to vacate is too optimistic, more like daily calls. If enough Republican House members are emotional enough to allow for such a system, then they are emotional enough to call a motion to vacate daily when they don't get their way.",
">\n\nI think people underestimate the power this gives Jeffries and the Dems.\nAt some point in the next 6 months, McCarthy is going to accidentally do something sane, and enrage Forehead and Friends. Little Kevin will find himself facing a motion to vacate.\nAt which point Jeffries can saunter up, and say \"Hey Little Kevin, I've got fifty purple state Dems who will prop you up... In exchange for....\".\nAnd Little Kevin will do some thinking, and realize that it's going to be easier to get Dem votes to prop himself up than it will be to negotiate with Forehead. The Dems will have clear demands, as opposed to the insanity the Freedom types will be demanding.\nIf Jeffries plays this right, it could end up being a decent session for the Forces of Sanity.",
">\n\nForehead and friends..\nI laughed at that one. Thank you!",
">\n\nI think it goes without saying that there will eventually be a motion to vacate, the only question is \"when.\" McCarthy will undoubtedly do something that makes one of the 20 anti-McCarthy Reps mad, whether real or imagined, and they'll call the vote. The real question is could he actually survive it and I'm not convinced he could.",
">\n\nThe guaranteed call is going to be around anything related to the debt ceiling. My feeling is that if this rules package is as nuts as its rumored to be why would the GOP waste time becoming the bad guy entirely when they can let these 20 take all the heat of the issue themselves?? \nThink about it. .just let Matt or whoever wants to unhinge their jaw and toss the vote out take the heat and they can pitch all the consequences on the outspoken bunch of fringe crazies rather than torpedo their own re election chances. Bonus is that it absolutely stops the entire house from even considering any other alternative legislation. They have to do nothing but vote for speaker.",
">\n\nIf McCarthy was actually smart, he’d have created a coalition government rather than Paul Ryan-ing himself by selling his soul to a handful of nihilistic extremists. \nFurther, if he had an ounce of testicular fortitude, now that he’s speaker, he would immediately say, “F- you to all 20 of my haters, the rules are not changing”\nTo bad (for Kevin) that McCarthy is a spineless toad with potato salad for brains.",
">\n\nRepublicans have spent decades convincing their base that compromise is weakness. We saw a ton of Republicans get primaried and replaced since 2010 because they were willing to compromise and work with Dems on common sense things like funding the Government and helping senior citizens. McCarthy is stuck in a situation where unless he gets the HFC on board, he cannot reach across the aisle for help, because the Republican base will eat him alive.",
">\n\nMcCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership and gave dems the majority. All they have to do is show how dysfunctional the republicans are.",
">\n\n\nMcCarthy literally sold his soul for the speakership\n\nYes.\n\nand gave dems the majority. \n\nNo.\nNothing that was done here increases the power of the Democratic party.",
">\n\nIn the next HOR elections the only political ads they need to show is this the dysfunction. Swing districts in NY and Cali will flip blue."
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